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"There will be further feedback on that trade, as others try force stops etc."

You're saying that the shakeout is targeting leveraged trades by hedge funds?

"Even on a simple supply and demand argument, that should warrant a higher price. There’s 18% less shares in the market place for anybody else to purchase."

You've hit the nail on the head there Larry, under normal circumstances a big investor building a large stake would suggest the stock is undervalued. If Buffet bought 5% of a US company the price would fly, Drahi increasing his stake in BT and the price goes down. It's so obviously manipulated imo.

It isn't just BT, Lloyds dropped more than 4% yesterday on the back of nothing. UK retail investors are being shaken and not stirred, maybe 007 should be on the case.

"3% down - bid froth coming off"

It's due to the Government signalling they'll stop any takeover of BT, but it's also part of the market games. Drahi's 3% purchase yesterday was at 178.4p, clearly the stock price is either dysfunctional, or manipulated.

"Just shows how low in the ladder PI's are, when someone can but another 6% of the company in a single day and the share price goes down"

It's because the rules are designed to aid the big players. What's the point in Exchanges, like the London Stock Exchange, if big money can circumvent them and buy stock on the cheap Off Book. It would appear that Stock Exchange's only functions are to list the stocks, and give a mechanism for price discovery. Since large volumes can be bought Off Book, without participating in price discovery, low On Book volumes are easily manipulated on the Exchanges with algo's, and by extension Price Discovery, therefore the Market's are clearly designed with manipulation in mind, in my opinion.

No real surprise after yesterdays 3% trade, just some June Deja Vu.

"It was an off book trade so it is impossible to assess and could have been traded today, Friday or weeks ago."

I'm 100% certain this was from today, the traded price matches todays Open price of 178.4p, so it was either traded at the open today, or the price agreed against todays Open.

The closing price is 174.85p, down 2.02% on the day, which is incredible considering a 3%+ trade went through at 178.4p. If ever there was proof that the market trading regime make no sense, then BT's closing price is hard proof. Back in June, when the 5% trade went through, the opening price was 178.05 and the closing price 183.5p, so at least it closed higher on the day. Off Book trading allows the big players to mop up stock without raising the price, so it makes a mockery of trading stocks. If all trades were On Book, BT's share price would rise dramatically on the back of the volumes on these big trades.

I wonder if Bezos will invite Mike Myers to take a trip on Blue Origin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju1UwmgkKgI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laLnop6LeFE

An Off Book trade has gone through for over 331 Million BT shares, at a cost of over £590 Million. Interesting times.

That trade was over 3%, so I would think it'll warrant an RNS at some point. It was only around 3 days after the big 5% trade, in June, that Altice announced their 12.1% holding.

tradeTime price volume . . . . Value . . . . . . . . .type . . . . mic . venue
14:29:22 . . 178.4 331050568 . £590,594,213.3 Off-Book XOFF ECEU

Just jumped to 339,774,229 on the London Stock Exchange.

"Missed actual numbers going through but Cumulative Volume now showing at 340m"

It's currently showing the Volume as 8,610,356, with an On Book Turnover of £9,018,241.94. The big Volume raising Off Book trades mustn't have been reported on the London Stock Exchange yet.

"you are correct IMO, fusion will solve most static energy needs, the Moon has an Helium 3 - with one lost proton, "

Do you mean missing Neutron? Since it's the Protons that decide the Element. If Helium lost a Proton, it would become an isotype of Hydrogen, in this case Tritium.

"Boris cronyism"

They're all as useless as one another, Labour have their own issues. Momentum all but took over the Labour party, installed Corbin, and moved the party over to the left; The problem for Labour is that their support in Scotland has evaporated, and England's moved over to the Right of politics. Unless Labour can demonstrate clear Right of centre views, they've got no chance at the next election. I can't forgive Labour for Gordon Brown hammering the final nails into the Final Salary Pension schemes coffin. The Conservatives may have their divisions, but they aren't as ingrained as Labour's, with a substantial far left contingent lurking in the background.

""What's she doing in government ?"might be a better question to ask"

That's an easy one, it's because the Conservatives won the last election.

"My favourite has to be BP rather than VOD, I can just see oilers doing very well in the future & I did buy them relatively cheap."

You could be right, a lot will depend on the new renewable Technologies, and the much more exciting idea of Fusion Power. If they manage to build a game changing commercially viable Fusion Reactor, then all bets are off on renewables and all fossil fuels. Imagine what they could achieve with Fusion, virtually unlimited cheap electricity, opening up a multitude of possibilities.

"Fusion has the potential to provide a near-limitless source of low carbon energy by copying the processes that power the sun and stars where atoms are fused to release energy, creating nearly four million times more energy for every kilogram of fuel than burning coal, oil or gas"

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/five-sites-shortlisted-for-uk-fusion-energy-plant

Ridiculous ideas, like Farmers heating their fields in the winter to grow grapes might be possible, as well as many other power hungry currently unfeasible ideas.
Wont be for a good few years yet though, even with a breakthrough.

"I have 4 individual shares , vod being one of them, which are all in loss, as for the ones in loss, they could possibly make a good profit for me next year, or not ?"

Everyone has their own investing style, and much will depend on their investing time window. I'm currently sitting on paper losses on my BT and Vodafone investments, but I see Telecoms as one of the few big money making industries over the next ten years.
You could invest in Crypto where some people have made an absolute fortune, if they invested early on, took the profit, and aren't still sitting on a paper profit in some Bitcoin wallet; Personally I agree with people like Jamie Dimon, or John Paulson, who state that there's no intrinsic value to Crypto currency, and it's therefore worthless, the only question is, when will the music stop playing? You could also invest in US big tech, but has that boat sailed? Regulators are gearing up to go after the "FAANG's", or whatever the new acronym is, with recent fines for Amazon, Apple, Meta, Google, and various regulatory investigations ongoing. There may also be big changes to Net Neutrality, that could also hit Big Tech's pockets.
Telecoms may be spending big at the moment, but once 5G and FTTP rollout's are completed, it's unlikely that there'll be any further big infrastructure spend for decades to come, as the technology is now pushing the boundaries of our current understanding of physics. 6G/mm Wave is limited by range and obstructions, apart from the services that will use current 5G Wavelengths, so the higher mm Frequencies will likely serve highly populated close range and covered venues, so might be better viewed as WiFi rather than mobile, and will be an extension of 5G, not a replacement.
The current low valuations, for Telecom stocks, are an opportunity for long term holders, but that's just my opinion, and the reason I'll keep holding, topping up, and waiting.

If any of the big papers have any revelations, tomorrow morning will be interesting. Maybe the Times, or the Telegraph, are sitting on a big headline grabber, or maybe not lol.