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We can all come up with some math for how much it would be worth however it seems we cannot trust any of the mgmt projections at this point.
It will be worth as much as someone is prepared to pay for it.
The good think about it is that we have seen in the past that there is demand for this type of business and hopefully they can start a small bidding war as there are a lot of money on the sidelines for acquisitions.
We will have to wait and and I know now it seems like this will take years to recover however all we need is a bid for the entire company and we are past 120 in my opinion.
I got quite a few at 60 and I am gonna carry on buying once a month however I will own so many shares of this company, more than any company ever before.
We all have to take a big risk at some point in our life and mine looks to be Mobico.
Hopefully I can reap the rewards in 5 years time.
Rising interests has no bearing on this anymore.
They have fixed long term debt, people need to stop bringing that up.
Yes I would prefer no dividend as there is to much tax involved.
They have around 350 mil on the balance sheet as well.
I just feel it all seems so messy I just don’t know how are they taking so many bad decision as no one is that *tupid and I know is not easy to run a large company but there is definitely a better way which most of us saw a year ago.
I just wonder how in the hell they were not able to see what most of us have seen a lot earlier.
No divi, sell part of the business, pay down debt.
They must have panicked about a hostile takeover or low offer and I also wonder how did M&G timmed it do perfectly.
They are the second largest school bus operator and shuttle transfer in NA.
They will get a good amount and there will be a special divident from the sale maybe.
It’s hard to put a number on it.
This has been done on purpose as someone with a functioning brain gets an offer first and then announce it not the other way.
I have never seen this before, not in this manner anyway.
I am not selling a single share but they way they’ve managed this is so bad.
Like I said for me this is either 0 or a double at least.
Management comes and goes and at some point it will rise is just that it will take a lit longer and there are so many companies at good prices and I am stuck with this for years and that is the part that hurts.
Hey how….nothing Incan do now.
JG we both have a lot in this company.
I have even more then you from what you stated on this board.
What they are doing is completely wrong and I don’t know if there is a way to contest or challenge the management on this….bonkers.
If I could I would like to take legal action against them however I know that is not possible.
Complete rip off but life has way to get back at people like them.
It’s just money in the end but still hurts.
Omg…..this is so bad.
How in the hell were they able to *crew up so badly. All I can think is that they are trying to sell it for cheap therefore driving share price down.
No one can that *tupid…I just don’t get it, they are completely useless.
I don’t know how people like them get at the top of a company like this.
I was right a few months back when I said they will sell NA however to be that bad as they are at influencing a share price. They could have just sold that and announce after its sold and keep the dividend.
UNBELIEVABLE
I haven't posted here since the 50p days when I sold at a 16% loss.
I have finally decided to buy back in today as I was waiting for this to form a bottom.
I have sold with a big regret not for the loss as much as for the believe I had.....anyway back in and I see a lot of old people stayed on the chat.
Lets hope the new CEO will give this company a must needed facelift and his experience with AWS will prove usefull.
I thought the same think, that there might be some more write offs or adjustments but we cannot predict those and there is no way for us to figure that out, we have to work of the information that we have in front of us and if we consider that on all our investments we will not be buy anything.
Paddy I usually do ignore people like that and I also appreciate constructive criticism backed by facts. It's just that there is so much misinformation on this board some time, it's crazy.
How can you say there will be a RI when there is a 8% dividend, 350 mil in cash, debt refinanced and profit margin expanding on this market cap.
This company has never been cheaper just look at Total Enterprise Vale to EBITA which is in my opinion the right way to value a company. its ridiculous.
Which part you do not believe? the one on which they've refinanced the debt which is public information or the one where the've increased the priced which you can easily check.
You were right to sell however why are you still here? Are you trying to save everyone out of the goodness of your hard or just to create panic-everyone has a motive, I am just curious which one is your.
Are you actually comparing this with boohoo? Oranges and apples I'm afraid.They have been very transparent in everything they do. They paid 60 mil for Wedriveyou so they own it now 100%, paid down 40mil in debt, wrote off 250mil of Alsa goodwill, paid 30mil in dividends, increased all the prices across the board, and they have 350 mil in cash, refinanced most debt until 2028. Again the market can stay irelevant for a long period of time and for some to make money others need to loose.
I am wandering how low it can go now and to be honest it's almost comical and I became immune to the drops as every time I check the price I expect it to be down another 2%.
Timing a share is close to impossible and yes most of us both to early but people spit to much nonsense on this board.
With 350mil on the balance sheet they can cover the interest and the dividend for 3 years and that's without making any money in this 3 years and bearing in mind that they have just increase prices across the board it should show up in profit margin and cash flow. they also had the 250 mil impairment, covid funding cut, paid 60 mil for that acquisition with was the final payment and paid 40 mil of debt all in one year.
if you need the money then yes you are in a bad position because the market can stay irrelevant longer then most of us can stay solvent plus in 90% of cases the share doesn't turn a corner until everyone has given up from past experience.
I will carry on adding twice a month as I have always said and whoever cannot stomach this will sells the way the market works.
Quick you are a bit off with the debt. You have included everything from accounts payable, accrued expenses, capital payments, pension deficit and so on and so on.
Only a part of that debt is interest bearing debt and some of it its accounting gimmicks.
You are entitled to be bearish on this stock and even post your opinion however you are either misinformed or you are doing it on purpose, either way hope you are making money as that is the sole purpose of this game.
Of course a lot of people are selling, there is a reason why 87% of people loose money on the stock market plus everyone has different circumstances.
I am holding and adding every month, for me this is at least a double or 0. it might take a few years however I am happy to collect the dividend in the meantime.
I hope to make this my biggest holding and the longer it stays around this level or +, - 20% I will keep adding but everyone is different and people have different plans.
This is just my thought and my believe.