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Fleccy, with your incredible knowledge please tell me what the share price would be if BT was 8 billion in the green today? You seem to think substantial debt is the best thing about BT . Foolish outlook, very, very foolish. If you think my concerns about my holdings are deramping the share price I can give you 8 Billion reasons why they aint.
With debt that high why not just round it up to the nearest Billion, I mean whats a few million between friends, all the clever, smart and I told you so people say its normal and is nothing to worry about old boy, its not like we all have a billion or two of debt on our credit cards, it don't look or sound good to me.
Shares slump on fears for broadband dominance on home turf.
Why? because they have to provide the network and pay for its maintenance, they price this in to their products and are therefore expensive compared to the leeches that contribute nothing and earn more per customer, thanks Ofcom.
Monopoly my ass.
Lets wait for a response from the chairman, somebody needs to pour some cold water over this before its to late, sell, buy, hold, sell they say, £1.75...... they must be joking or winning a lot of money on the way down. Come on Mr Chairman, wakey wakey what the hell is going on, lets hear some sort of reassuring please.
Right....so what is going to drive an increase in the SP over the coming months and years, i.e. what will be different that will encourage the market to raise the value of this share rather than devalue it as it has over the last few years?
Bluepete, thats what I was trying to get across but failed miserably as usual, you also mention diversification to open up growth opportunities, I agree thats what they may be trying to do but its coming across to me as a Jack of all trades, masters of none kind of way which is getting me down.
You have me all wrong, not a rant, its a observation, sure billions of pounds of debt, no problem, pension debt, sorted, yet BT continue to try and evolve yet just seem to be becoming a bit player in all sorts of ventures that dont seem to capture peoples imagination. BT Be There, what was the purpose in that ? what is BT plus? its 2019 and I still dont understand my plain English paper phone and Broadband bill, I dont want any caller display or friends and family or a "package" yet I see other phone company's using the same wires can offer folks a BB service for £1.00 more than a bog standard speech only service, why? , Im a loyal shareholding customer of BT and I want nothing more than piece of mind because the instability and lets face it, shocking performance for whatever reason is doing my bloody head in, you seem to know everything so tell me exactly why the share price is a crock at the moment. Sheer speculation is all I hear, I want some truthful answers rather than just hearing about how well the company's doing while the place is getting a very quiet hush hush gently does it massive kitchen sinking. Please stop all the massive debt and oh its well covered baloney, just tell me why its falling with zero sign of a recovery, as for the looney tunes I called, I called it its gone up 1p today, I was right, I was right, rubbish absolute load of show off tosh. The other blinding statement is its worth what its worth because that is what the market says its worth, is rubbish, tell me the reason why the market says its worth what its worth and tell me the issue that needs solving to remedy it. Thanks, have a great weekend. Remember BT= Be There and if you want a mobile phone use EE, I mean BT. and if you like men in leotards pretending to fight then BT can sell you it no problem.
What does it matter about anybody's holdings, I cant see how the company's debt can just be ignored and cast aside and explained away as nothing to do with the current price, the company expects a poor outlook for the next few years, they state that themselves. Seems to be lots of talk about investment and fibre this and fibre that, trouble is other company's are running rings around them at the moment, to the point that I do believe they are becoming a bit player trying to keep up rather than being the No1 UK provider. If the debt isn't an issue then why are jobs and buildings going ? to appease the dividend loving shareholders you think? or to reinvest in their core business or to throw out the window to a TV service that will have no appeal to anybody as thats all covered by other company's that BT will not be able to compete with, what has BT become? the question is what does BT want to be, anybody have any idea, is it a TV company, fixed lines, mobile phones, broadband provider. They will be selling gas and electric soon and have the openreach engineers cleaning windows and gutters before long. As for the new logo, fantastic job, real peachy, the new logo sums the company's future vision and outlook up nicely in one bold statement, same old, same old. Im in long for the dividends, however I think my income is going to stop abruptly soon and will be left holding a 40 yard skip full of dead shares for longer than I will be around to see an improvement on.
Other than that lifes good.
Why dont they transmit the signal down your electricity feed? plug your router in and hey presto your connected, or how about your router also transmits for your neighbour, or is there limits on how close you can stand to a transmitter before you grow a second head or your lungs start to melt.
Peculiar isn't it, save money by getting rid of staff, yet give them all a free £500 in shares to raise morale, I wonder if they get that before they are pushed out the door, what with getting rid of 270 buildings and condensing down to 30, that may be like the Guinness record for "pass the p45 parcel", first one to grab an empty chair keeps their job, for less money, and probably an extra 3 hours a day commuting, you lucky people. Has their Union agreed to this?.
Nigeco, your family member more than likely works for Openreach, not BT, Openreach operate the same as BT, they go for the most experienced members first, because your friend is probably going to be doing the same job for 10k a year less, with less holiday, longer hours, and a saving scheme instead of a pension, therefore I would think there fairly safe for a few years.
Again, I disagree, you are both talking about events that was clearly in the past, the closest you got to a prediction is as it was happening, what are you trying to achieve? as long as people keep throwing money in the pot it rises, you did not call it or foresee it. Read the posts very carefully and as long as you have your blinkers off its clear to see. As for quoting yourself, well thats just incredible. Called nothing, foresaw nothing.
No, I disagree, called nothing, and was wrong when tried to predict, read his posts properly, goes in to fine detail about events that have happened, if that is calling it.....then I am wrong. Acts like a tacky Spiritualist Medium, they do it for cash and tell you what you want to hear, not sure what Velo thinks is being achieved, seems to be practising the art of gobbledy gook and manipulation talk on BT share price forum members perhaps before writing a book or releasing it as a theatrical stage show in the west end.
I dont want to be the guy that points out how the tricks are performed. Its not personal so thats that. Thats my own opinion, go ahead and let Velo form your opinion for you, its easy and free. I have nothing more to say so will leave it at that, his mystical sorcery is obviously appealing to some of you and you are falling for the illusion.
Has the uncanny knack of predicting events after they have occurred, likes to shut the gate after the horse has bolted, so now the price has risen the price may rise some more, and when it comes down it may fall some more, and when it remains the same it wont rise or fall. I have noticed a few people like to say, yes Velo was right, and Velo called it, however it is always after the event and never before. Dresses it up as though hes doing you a favour with the I am so busy and wont be available for another week line, holds zero, buys zero. Cut and run merchant missed out. I await the response of, oh but I bought 10 zillion shares a nano second before they turned. The person should be in politics.
Velo, Im not suspicious, but if you havent sold your shares due to the fear factor then you are holding, and hoping, although I have held back from buying more as in my opinion there must be something wrong as this share appears to be being manipulated, I dont mind as the lower the SP the more dividends I get, as this practice for this particular share has served me extremely well, however, if the divi payment is stopped then I will not be happy for a while, if you are a quick buck merchant and are waiting for the tide to turn then currently you may be losing, I suspect the share price will rise before the divi payment, and many will get out then, maybe a small loss or take a loss as a sigh of relief to shake them off, either way if your holding in hope of a rise you are holding, if your waiting for the divi you are holding, you are obviously not holding if you sell them for a loss, thats why many become bitter and preach about what a poor share BT is. I am in long and holding and have been for many years, the quick buck types come and go with chump change, while others quietly build an empire on the strength of it. Thats all in my opinion, I dont advocate buying or selling any shares at all, for those that feel they are stuck with them, good luck.