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I have no idea what is Blooms profit margin... but Ceres' Gross Profit Margin is 76.2% as stated in Investing.com

https://uk.investing.com/equities/ceres-power-holdings

I asked Gemini Pro 3.0 about the AI stocks free fall today:

Q: Why is all AI stocks down today despite the after market rally last night?

A: It can be incredibly frustrating to see stocks drop after positive news. The decline in AI stocks today—despite the massive rally in after-hours trading last night—is primarily driven by a classic market reaction known as "Sell the News," combined with macroeconomic fears that are overshadowing individual company successes.

Here is the breakdown of why the market reversed course today, November 20, 2025.

1. The "Sell the News" Reaction

Nvidia reported blockbuster earnings last night (beating revenue expectations by over $2 billion), which caused the initial after-market rally. However, expectations were so incredibly high that "good" wasn't enough to sustain the momentum.

Profit Taking: Investors often buy stocks anticipating good news and then sell immediately after the news is confirmed to lock in profits.

Priced for Perfection: Because AI stocks have risen so much recently, the "beat" was already priced into the stock. Investors used the liquidity from the good news to exit their positions.

2. Interest Rate Jitters (The Macro Factor)

This is likely the biggest driver of today's red ink. While Nvidia's news was good for tech, the broader economic news today was bad for risk.

Fading Rate Cut Hopes: New data and Fed commentary today dampened hopes for an interest rate cut in December. High interest rates hurt growth stocks (like AI companies) the most because it makes their future cash flows less valuable.

Data Uncertainty: Markets are currently dealing with a "data blackout" due to the recent government shutdown mentioned in financial reports. Without clear jobs or inflation data, investors are risk-averse and pulling money out of volatile sectors like AI.

3. Valuation & "Bubble" Fears

Despite Nvidia's strong guidance, there remains a lingering fear in the market that AI infrastructure spending is a "bubble."

Even though Nvidia proved demand is strong, investors are nervous about how much other companies (like Microsoft, Google, and Meta) are spending on these chips without seeing immediate, massive returns in their own software revenue. This skepticism dragged down the wider sector today.

Once Delta starts production in their high-volume factory, Bloom will have a real competition...

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Delta and Siemens to Complement their Power Solutions to Help Customers Cut Data Center Deployment Time, Costs, and Carbon Emissions

https://aijourn.com/delta-and-siemens-to-complement-their-power-solutions-to-help-customers-cut-data-center-deployment-time-costs-and-carbon-emissions/

It will go up again once US stock market opens @ 14:30...

Percypipe59, I think you are right. There was 1.039M shares bought @ 10:53. That's what the live Investing.com graph is telling me.

When it went down 364p half an hour ago somebody immediately bought 99.3k shares... LOL

Here is the link to the news about "Berenberg raises Ceres Power price target to 530 (300) pence - 'buy'"

https://www.lse.co.uk/news/CWR/london-broker-ratings-jpmorgan-cuts-renewables-infrastructure-hicl-rijfa2b820t9hj3.html

Doosan Fuel Cell Signs ₩96.4 Billion (USD66M) Deal with KEPCO to Supply Hydrogen Power over 20 Year

https://fuelcellsworks.com/2025/11/17/green-investment/doosan-fuel-cell-signs-96-4-billion-deal-with-kepco-to-supply-hydrogen-power-over-20-year

AharkAttack, don't worry it... won't happen in our generation... the most optimistic is 80 years... I used to work in 3 automotive companies (total of 26+ years)... in Toyota factory in Japan as early as late 80's they tried to put robots in every job possible but they could not because there are manual jobs that requires human touch and decision that robot can't do even with AI now. I can guarantee you that even in Tesla they can't make their factory run purely by robots.

Unrestingly = interestingly

CWR stock price trend follows that of BE most of the time.... and unrestingly, BE and IREN stock prices are almost synchronised right now... I have these 3 graphs in my screen and they almost go up /down at the same pattern.

Part of the article from Investing dot com today, I only copied/pasted the portion related to Ceres:

3 EU stocks added to Goldman’s Conviction List: Directors’ Cut

Investing.com -- Goldman Sachs has identified several standout performers in the industrials sector, highlighting companies positioned to benefit from infrastructure spending, data center growth, and strategic acquisitions.

These selections reflect the brokerage’s confidence in businesses with strong earnings potential and market positioning advantages.

The brokerage’s analysis points to significant upside potential for these industrial leaders, with each company offering unique exposure to high-growth segments within the broader industrial landscape.

Ceres Power

Goldman included this British energy technology company for its exposure to AI-driven expansion in global data-center power demand, which the brokerage projects will increase 175% through the decade.

Analyst Michele Della Vigna described Ceres as an "underappreciated" solid-oxide fuel-cell innovator that benefits from its licensing model and strategic partnerships with manufacturers positioned for large-scale growth.

The brokerage forecasts royalty revenue to rise from £95 million in its base case to £215 million in an upside scenario by 2030, potentially driving EBIT margins toward 45%.

Despite recent gains, Ceres still trades at approximately a 50% discount to its 10-year average valuation. Goldman’s 12-month target price of 480 pence implies a substantial 79% total return potential.

https://uk.investing.com/news/stock-market-news/3-eu-stocks-added-to-goldmans-conviction-list-directors-cut-93CH-4341767

Huge vote of confidence' as data centre giant announces £4bn British investment

https://news.sky.com/story/huge-vote-of-confidence-as-data-centre-giant-announces-4bn-british-investment-13459984

not mentioned how the data centre will be powered.

UBS raises Ceres Power price target to 350 (120) pence - 'buy'

Doosan Fuel Cell stock price was up by almost 30% yesterday. .. up only 4.4% today.

Only short sellers with less than 0.2% of company shares will not be published to reduce red tape:

LONDON, Oct 28 (Reuters) - Britain's financial markets watchdog on Tuesday confirmed that it would stop publishing the identity of stock market short sellers, amid a wider push by UK regulators to cut red tape and make the country more competitive.

A short position is a bet that a company's stock price will decline. Under the revised regime, the Financial Conduct Authority will only publish anonymised, aggregate net short positions, based on private notifications from market participants holding more than 0.2% of a company's shares.

https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/britains-fca-eases-short-selling-rules-hedge-funds-2025-10-28/

This will probably encourage more short sellers and those big institution short sellers that hold a significant shares to the competing company or has a plan to pull down the price before making a big move of buying big time.

Last time Ceres had no product in high volume production (everything was just testing at that time) and there was no AI data centres boom... it's different this time. Doosan (it's South Korean licensee) is already in mass production and Delta in Taiwan which has 4x the production capacity of Doosan will soon be doing their mass production as well.

Marshall Wace Llp increased their shorties yesterday... brave souls!

According to Investing dot com Hargreaves Lansdown Asset Management Ltd. owns 9.65% (18,695,499) and this is officially confirmed 1/08/2025.