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"It's so disappointing that even Escala is getting despondent. Meanwhile haggis pumps away for all he's worth."

Not exactly Garmoan.

I find Haggis's incessant ramping, and loose interpretation of the facts as annoying as your incessant moaning. Another is his ongoing assertion that there are 43 IIs supporting AFC. There are not. There are lots of people like me, PIs, buying via nominee brokers who appear as IIs, but are not. So Hargreaves for example might be listed as a II, but they have never bought AFC shares.

For the avoidance of doubt I remain fully invested in AFC. The larger units, plus the ammonium story (vital for shipping) is compelling. At the moment I still have no hard factual basis on which to distrust AB and AFC, but the End of Year report will be important. AFC understands that which is why they have told us they need to work out how to incorporate the change in the ABB payment.

I think we will see short term volatility but also think big announcements are coming soon, probably with ABB. But unlike some I don't see this at £s within a short space of time.....sorry Haggis. If we got close to £1 in 12-18 months I would be ecstatic.

I hope this is an example of a post that neither pumps or de ramps. Sadly Haggis has me on ignore as he is incapable of listening to any voice but his own. And the derampers all have an agenda. I don't suppose much will change. We need more women on this board!!

I have a mate who bought some of these at 22p in 2010. That's a pretty crap long term trend.

I'm afraid you can't chart AFC...it's all about fundamentals and the wider economy. The latter will get better, but as for the former AFC needs to pull its finger out and show some revenue.

Haggis, it's marvellous that you are so optimistic and that every tenuous snippet will make us millionaires, but I can't help but notice that the SP seems to be slipping somewhat.

How do you account for this? Given how clever all these IIs are??

Share tip in Mail on Sunday

Personally I think it is worth a punt.

Worth reading the risks on their IPO document first though. Not for widows and orphans.

But...a sustainable product that is much needed and probable shift to profitability soon. Like I say, worth a punt.

Beware liquidity though....only £20m in circulation.

There really aren't Haggis.

There is zero chance AFC will reach 195p in the next 12 months unless they have a share consolidation. Let's be realistic.

50p is my 1 yr target now.

And when do you expect 195p by Haggis? I think we could all agree with an open-ended target, but essentially meaningless without a timeline.

Bumble, may I ask when you expect the broker target of 195p to be reached? The brokers themselves don't say - it could be 2050, by which time 195p will be worth about a bob in today's money with inflation as it is.

Presumably Moneysponge you feel Ceres and ITM and pretty much every fuel cell manufacturer is similarly over valued? I think your MO simply suits the message you wish to convey.

Sadly Haggis, a lot of the IIs are in fact share platforms through which PIs invest.

Not only are you totally thick Ade, I think you are on drugs and vodka as well.
At least you provide amusement....your only redeeming feature. Although I still begrudge you the oxygen you breathe.

The Zeus and Peel Hunt valuations tell us what they think AFC might be worth at some unspecified time in the future are so are meaningless. They have no bearing on the current valuation. Do they think AFC will be worth these sums in a year, three years, thirty years?? Zeus has had its target for a long time and we are futher away from it than ever.

AFC will re-rate at some point. Their MCap will rise, hopefully substantially, but the Zeus and Peel Hunt views are toilet paper.

Surely you are not seeking insider information Garmoan? If so very naughty and I'm not your woman.

Sorry Ade...probably too subtle for you. Let me re type it

You thick twit!

"I dont like telling people bad news but it was it is i cannot lye." said Ade

Well Ade you are a known liar, but you certainly can't spell. You think twit.

"The thing that everyone is missing is Hydrogen is just to expense and also admits to many chemicals in production.
Hydrogen will never take off its fools gold."

A classic Ade post. Utter drivel. Poor spelling and absolute tosh. When will this class clown develop some insight and realise that he lacks the intellectual capacity to make any meaningful contribution or comment.

Utterly pitiful; I hope he finds someone who can help him.

Because I'm better informed than you are Garmoan. The clues were there. A little extra research from a clever associate of mine.
At least next time I say something you might not question it.

We are dreading ever having to have anything to do with you Garonne or anyone like you. You sad sad weasly little individual.

Garonne
Would you please cease giving the impression that you are a disgruntled investor with shares in AFC. Your "oh-so-reasonable" posts are pathognomonic of the the serial, probably paid, deramper. You have an agenda, and that agenda is to damage AFC, and by extension every genuine holder on this board, for your own ends. You represent the ugly, selfish world in which we now live where the winners are becoming not the innovative, the generous, the genuine, but the malevolent, the dishonest and the bullies.

How do I know this? Well apart from your posting style it is simply disingenuous that you seek to characterise everything you hear about AFC in the worst possible light and no real investor would be that stupid.

Haggis, Zeus had a valuation at the same level it is now over 2 years ago. How far into the future do they think it is reasonable to target. If I put 20p in a bank account today at 3% interest it will without doubt get to 195p but it will take many years.

These broker targets are utterly meaningless without timeframes.