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Just need to break 180 today and some positive news over the weekend and this will fly up.

Never wanted to get involved with TUI during the pandemic due to the structure and debt.

BUT

I’ll buy in after the RI.

Apologies balmus, missed the typing of 80-85% but take in the RI which is half the price itll most likely go to, give or take you are looking at a 46% dilution.

If this continues going up in SP then those figures are not going to work out. However given it’s a month to January, and they’ve tried to capitalise on positive news with vaccines and restrictions being lifted, it’s a long wait for the right issue.

I did say my cash out price was 225 so that aligns with my thoughts!

Masaimara,

No one will know the exact figures until the RI is approved in the general meeting in January at which time you’ll find out the rights allocation. On this basis the SP will drag its backside along the ground until then, more than likely topping mid 300s. (You may get lucky if the travel industry turns itself around before January, which I doubt it will, which wouldn’t impact the price as much as it’s going to)

But, on the basis of a raise of €509m at circa 107p that’s 475m shares added to the existing shares of 590m which totals 1065m shares in circulation.

On that basis of the maths (without exact shares to be offered) that’s circa 45% of an increase to shares circulating in the market. It’s standard to use this information plus a full month of dropping of the share price with no positive outlook (unless covid goes away before January) to anticipate the share price will fall to mid 300s. Then you would deduct the 45% from the date the subscription of shares is announced.

As I said I can’t guarantee the exact figures so these will be there or abouts.

Good luck.

Balmus, you clearly have no idea on how an RI works.

You also any grasp the fact that the SP was sitting just under 600p. The realistic share price will probably sit around 340p before the RI commences. Leaving you with a SP of circa 180p.

So in simple terms if you bought in at 550p, and weather you took up your rights or not. To get from 550p to 180p is going to cost you a fortune as I said!

People need to understand that averaging down from circa 550p to the realistic settled SP Pre RI is going to cost you a lot of money, especially if your already deep with your investment.

On top of that, the RI is going to cost you a fortune to ensure you’re not diluted. Hence the reason I said sell high and then rebuy after the RI to catch the SP rise.

A £5000 investment at say 550p will end up turning in to a £20000 investment trying to chase the average. A way many people cannot afford.

Banker, that would be the case if the share price hasn’t dropped from just under 600p to the actual RI date in January, with most likely a share price of 340. Leaving people that bought in at the higher or mid high prices of a unexpected drop in value, more exposed and out of pocket anywhere up to 40%, never mind forking out for an RI. They could exit now and rebut at a cheaper rate minimising their loss and maximising their gains to offset their previous losses rather than having a mountain to claim when the RI has settled.

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Gunner, correct. They’ll agree the RI and then you will be offered the conditions of the RI wether it’s 1:3 ratio or what not.

Personally I think it was poor to announce
The RI intent so early. January is a month away. A lot of deterioration being allowed to happen. They’ve already announced a figure of €1.07 as you’re discount which sounds good for now. Just wait until the RI date comes around.

They were hoping for all the positivity around the vaccines and implementation to keep pushing the SP north therefore almost forgetting the RI, but reality is setting in.

M1 as the days near closer, this SP will fall to around 340p. At an offer of €1.07 per share, including the dilution, this will settle roughly 183.

If travel is picking up which I think will, you may get lucky with the figures

M1 as the days near closer, this SP will fall to around 340p. At an offer of €1.07 per share, including the dilution, this will settle roughly 170p.

If travel is picking up which I think will, you may get lucky with the figures

You guys are looking at roughly 46% dilution unless you take up for your full rights. If the rights issue was today at a close of 4.52 then you would ultimately be looking at a SP of circa 244p post rights issue.

Official numbers can’t be concluded as you’ll have to wait until January to see what offering you are getting for the shares.

Haha smithy, I’ve made over 25k on Easyjet and that was me bailing out early. Still waiting on 200p by August from you. I bet you don’t even invest, you’re 15 sitting playing games on your computer calling people peasants when you couldn’t swipe a fiver between your arse cheeks you’re that fat never mind having a fiver in your pocket.

Enjoy your sad and lonely life. As much as I’m out of EZJ now, I wish all the LTHs well, unlike you.

Scoop, I have to disagree with fishing and I’m a keen fisherman myself.

Fishing contributes 1.4b a year to the U.K. economy, 0.5% of GDP. I understand specific villages feel the impact, it’s like Aberdeen in Scotland, mostly costa and rural areas that feel it more.

However, to simply state Brexit is worth fighting over fishing when the U.K. imports more fish than it exports is simply shooting ourselves in the foot. This statement may not go down well, but when you look at the GDP and the economy as a whole, it’s merely the crumbs of what’s important to our countries economy.

This is being played as a nationalism card and always will be.

Looks like I’ve called TUI right! Riddled with unsustainable debt and seen that coming at the start of the pandemic, hence why I avoided them!

Great news today that would have ignited the markets, well overshadowed by the news this morning saying a no deal is likely after EU and U.K. cracked heads this morning at 7.30am!

I simply cannot believe the U.K. are still pushing for a no deal brexit, the catastrophe this will cause is unthinkable. I sure hope if they do go ahead they LOWER if citizens taxes and give people a break. However we know that taxes will be raised, wages will be lowered or frozen and the standard of living will increase.

Fundamentally and morally wrong from the U.K to impose these sanctions against their own people. Before anyone says the U.K. voted for it, no one was told how bad it would be and what they would be voting for. It’s a common phrase but turkeys simply voting for Christmas.

This will open in auction most probably! Just like the rest of the stocks!

Knew I should have lumped on another stock yesterday!

Good luck today guys let’s hope it’s a good rise

A large buy coming through* or sell but the opposite way

DaggerMal, MMs are the market makers, they act as the middleman between seller and buyer. Ultimately if IIs are looking for a lot of stock but at only a certain price, the MMs will effectively buy the stock from the seller and hold it u til the IIs order is complete. If it’s not at the price they need, the MMs will ensure they manipulate the SP or the other orders until the IIs order is filled.

This is often seen when a stock take as sudden pullback for no apparent reason, then you will normally see a large sell going through after hours or whenever, allowing the SP to push up to the next level.

I did comment last week regarding those pesky MMs, today’s buys slightly outweighing the sells but have a 6% rise.

Last week we seen 10mil buys more than sells and the a few similar days in the same week, yet we drop like a tonne of sand.

Just shows you how they play such a part in the control of the share prices.