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Thank you moniman. My last post to you was about your failure to know the difference between enterprise value & market cap (shame on you). nothing to do with the points you have just raised. Please pay attention next time??!! I think we all know by now that vod are having a torrid time, but where, from now? Selling part of the towers, is at least a start to get deb't down, but vod (Nick Read) has a very difficult job, & I don't think sacking him will be the answer. As I have said before, who will replace him. Someone with a magic wand perhaps, hopefully though somebody who at least knows the difference between enterprise value & market cap, & how the M.C.B. buyback works?

Gary. Wow. I care, & I wish I had the spare cash to buy as well. Good luck to L.T.I. Calm down. I am as cheesed off with the big fall as much as anybody, but no need to throw a wobbly!

Darkknightmy. Yet another one on here who can't be bothered to read up about the M.C.B. buy back program before posting on here. Surely not Rocket science?

moniman. Why do you insist on confusing market cap with enterprise value? Vodafone is worth (enterprise value) over 1.5 times it's debt. It is bad enough as it is, without you confusing matters even more.

moniman. Very funny I am sure, but hardly relevant on the vodafone share forum. I am totally ****ed off with our immigration situation, but what has it got to do with vodafone? You are on the wrong forum mate!

jedclampit. Vodafone does not owe twice what it is worth. Vodafone is worth about £74 billion(enterprise value) It's debt's are about £45 billion. So it is worth over 1.5 times it's debt. You are confusing vod's value with it's market cap, which is about £28.5 billion. To demonstrate my point, Let's say l borrow £100million pounds to buy a company for £100million, the company does well, & it is later valued £120million, If I then were to sell shares in the company they would have a market cap of £20million,(enterprise value, minus debt). My deb't therefore would be 5 times the market cap, but only 80% of the value of the company. So debt should always be compared to enterprise value, which is market cap, plus deb't. I know this is difficult to understand for some , but it is the whole basis of companies that are highly geared, so you really should try to understand this before investing on the stock market. Vod however does need to reduce it's deb't. in my opinion. But no more false/fake info please, I've had enough for one week! Tomorrow is the big one?! Good luck to all vod shareholders. Including one share Mikey.

Robina. I can assure the B.O.D. care vary much about the sp, as they are all in share incentive schemes which will reward them big time if the sp rises. Robina, More false info from you, so go to jail, don't pass go, & don't collect 200!

Thank's Mikey. I hope things go well for you as well, my question is, what needs to happen for things to go well for you? I, & I think many on here, don't understand what your objective is? Mine is obvious, I own a lot of vodafone shares. Your's is less clear?

Hello Gary. As you say Bearish has got the wrong end of the stick. He is confusing the share but back scheme with management share option/incentive schemes which are completely different. I don't know were you get "Most shares purchased by vod get re issued to pay down deb't" though? That is not the case. They are held in treasury, so as not to dilute the sp, as they pay no divi's on these treasury shares. I know it is is very complex, but it is important not to give out fake info on here as Bearish was. Cheers mate, let's hope tomorrows results are good.

BEARISHBULL. You say you are not a fan of buy back. You then say that "at the moment our profits are buying shares to be handed out to management at a later date". Where do get this info from? Are you you talking about the M.C.B. buyback program? Giving out fake info is not very helpful, so can you please explain, or please withdraw you comments? Thank you.

Vodafone closed level on the nasdaq at 12.47 which equates to 105.37 on the L.S.E. at current exchange rates. I will go an optimistic (as always) 1.10.4 for Friday hoping for good results. Hope to see some high predictions from you all, but everybody welcome, high or low. Even happy Mikey is joining in for a change, so good luck to him, although I of course hope he is wrong.

BEARISHBULL. Vodafone have to but back shares as part of the buy back program due to the mandatory convertible bonds as explained in the R.N.S. I am not sure why you don't get that? What rules need changing. Please read up about the M.C.B's which is very easy info to find, then you might understand? Cheers, have a good day.

Well done rob. That's what I call an Amigo double. Next week though, with Tuesday results, is the big one. I will look at the nas close before I put in my prophecy, & I think vod is doing o.k. at the moment, this time without any help from currency Exchange movements. It is a shame that some on here find our prophecy game silly, each to there own I guess? Thank's again to Roofer.

Hello Philip. Interesting post, but don't you find the costs of buying & selling, wipe out any profits?

Hello roofer. I think it is fair to point out that most (3%) of the rise on the nasdaq was due to the change in the £ to $ exch rate, so enough of these silly predictions please?! We wouldn't want to upset Nasty Narcus would we (not to mention) Happy Mikey. Hope we can have a lot of silly predictions for next week please, as it could be a bit rocky with the results coming up, could go either way of course, but I think hopefully upwards. Cheers Roofer keep it coming.

Narcus. I already know you are an idiot, so you don't need to come on here to prove it. You should try reading my post. As mole correctly pointed out the big vod rise on the nasdaq was due to the rise in the £ to $ exchange rate. My value yesterday was based on that. As for silly price guesses, there are some on here who own vodafone shares as opposed to working for vodafone, who think being positive is a good thing. Perhaps there is something about working for vodafone that turns you into a negative, miserable idiot.

Vod 12.455 on the nas, which equates to about 1.06.8p So lets hope for a big rise tomorrow? That is Rockets, not ski slopes. (for the benefit of Happy Mikey)

It's very sad when Mikey only posts on here when the sp has fallen, or he predicts it's going to fall. It must be very depressing to be that negative all the time. There is nothing worse, that an ex vod employee, with a big grievance, & massive chip on his shoulder. Instead of ski slopes, how about rockets for change? It might even cheer you up? (stranger things happen)

Cheapsharesboy. I agree, it is a good compromise deal. It sounds complicated, which is why perhaps, the market took time to realise this, hence the strong rise (so far) today. Of course you will always get the usual nonsense, knee jerk reaction from some on here, but that is why they are just ordinary investors, & not the C.E.O. of vodafone!

LondonCentric. It sounds like you should stick to playing Sega games then?