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I think an incomming government may well introduce legislation compelling construction firms to drop diesel generators in favour of cleaner alternatives such as offered by AFC especially since AFC is a British tech company and they would both be boosting British manufacturing and reducing the nations carbon footprint. Win win at no cost to the government. They could also stipulate clean energy in government contracts.

I really hope you're right about this SC. I expect a bit of a boost if there's an election with a positive outcome. As you point out current SP levels mean there are lots of tempting businesses going for rock bottom prices. I just hope AFC (as I expect holders here do), if it is bought out, goes at several multiples of the current SP.

You are absolutely right about this. The stock market is sadly bereft of liquidity and investors. I put a lot of this down to Brexit and the lack of interest in UK stocks - small isolated market with few investors as opposed to the massive potential of the US market or the vast EU market. If you want a decent valuation you need to be listed in the US market or in the EU. I can't believe we've done this to ourselves.

This is significant news in my opinion and looks like a revenue generating deployment. The applications around the rail network could be quite widespread.

And me please Bumble.

I was intrigued by the Japanese visit. One could ponder the motivation of the guests.....

a) Why don't we all waste a day visiting this no hope company producing pointless tech and trying to sell it. Good for a laugh!

b) Here is a really important technology and this company have clearly made some very important strides in readying several products for launch which appear to perform very competitively with their piers. We may want to invest in these products as they align perfectly with our future strategy. Lets take a look and see if we can negotiate aquire some for use in Japan.

c) Here is a company with emergent poducts that might attract a global market. It targets an important relatively unexploited market. The market valuation is pitifully low, the shares are cheap as chips, the UK government seems ambivalent, maybe we could buy into the company and get a piece of the action very cheaply and get our hands on a potentially global winner. Selling the silver to foreign companies is becomming a national habit of recent years.

Option "a" is ridiculous IMO. What do people here think?

Reading this board is a very frustrating experience. There is lots of information I would like to know about AFC. I accept that much of what is going on is information best kept restricted but it does feel sometimes that AFC is a branch of MI5.

How many units/products have we actually produced to date?
Do we have the capacity to ramp up production of units should there be a large order?
The recent speculation about the needs of the USA transport system and the ability of ABB to fulfil them raises the question as to whether we would assemble our AFC products in the USA.
What about production in continental Europe (the EU)?
We also don't seem to have any idea about time frames really.

I would prefer this board concentrated on AFC and it's commercial success, the peformance of the SP and drop all the personal attacks. I appreciate speculation about performance but only when it's backed up with evidence not just personal feelings and stabs in the dark.

(Sorry slipped!) as I was saying .... the climatefor manufacturing in the USA and EU looks enticing and given the flexibility our manufacturing design seems to have I would hope we are considering manufacturing in other locations around the world. Indeed does anyone recall the operation in the middle east we were contemplating?

The amount the government has promised for supporting green industry is pathetic. At a time when the USA has launched a $350bn initiative it makes the UK look very unappetising as a location for manufacturing investment. AFC may not need government funding but the climate for manufacturing in the EU or the USA

The way alternative energy stocks in this country are valued you'd think everyone thinks the old ways can just go on forever. The pressure on governments to accelerate the change to green energy is immense. However the British government seems reluctant. They talk the talk but where's the commitment and legislation to make it happen. They talk about being "world leading" and yet we trail miles behind what other developed countries are announcing in terms of infrastructure and providing the funding necessary.

AFC have a compelling range of products the application of which is obvious and yet we seem to struggle to make the investing public wake up. Some financial projections would make all the difference in my opinion and I think it is about time we had some from our BoD.

This morning's news is a great fillip for the company and ny morale! The arrangements with ABB are very impotant to us and I think the discount is actually a very good marketing strategy as it should bring forward orders which will be good for attracting further business. The share issue is trivial compared to the massive upside from this RNS. The market seems very subdued on the news however. I am awaiting some news releases in the press to generate more interest. At this price this has to be a steal!

I must say I was singularly underwhelmend by the Budget's lack of support for the alternetive fuel sector. We should be matching US and EU green subsidies at least. Unfortunately such is the dire state of the UK's finances that I expect we can't afford it. The pressure to bring forward investement through tax concessions is of course welcome and hopefully might encourage our customers to put their hands in their pockets but really I think the support for industry is woeful.

I have thought for a long time that AFC must start manufacturing inside the EU so that it can take full advantages of the Single Market. This new initiative by the EU seals the deal for me. It's a no brainer and what's more fairly easy for AFC to do at this stage in it's development. The USA should also not be ignored for manufacturing. It's sad really because I don't see how Brexit Britain can cope in the new world of protectionism. I notice our new guy will be based in Holland.

The heading "Advancements in Fuel Cells with AFC" indicates clearly that ABB are looking forward to working together. This implies to me that they are pleased with the advances that AFC have made and have the confidence to see that partnership continuing. This is undeniably very positive news. I wish as a share holder I knew what the nature of future cooperation will be in more detail, the nuts and bolts and not knowing is incredibly frustrating as posters here know only too well. We have been kept in the dark for too long. However, this glint of gold in the coal mine is a harbenger of some very good news in my view. Well done Klunk, great find!

Haggis
So that means if there is no RNS before the final date of the next report then there are no agreements? Is that correct?

It looks like we're not going to get any news before the last possible date for the EOY report. I find it baffling that there has literally been no proper updates on anything for at least 3 months. I naively thought that the Nomad was supposed to ensure any news that might affect the SP for good or bad was RNS'd. Either I'm wrong or there has actually been no significant news. I find that difficult to believe. Surely important news cannot be manipulated away or stored until convenient.

Five years of stagflation will mean 58p will be worth about 5p in the UK by 2028! OK that's a bit of exageration but I think £1 plus is easily on the cards sometime quite soon.

I noticed an interesting article on ABB in the FT today. Nothing specific about AFC of course but I was struck by the restructuring that is underway and they plan growth through aquisitions. These aquisitions will be small to medium sized operations and they plan a "huge pipeline" of deals at the rate of five to ten a year. Surely this has implications for AFC and if we were taken over I hope it would be for substantially more than the current SP.

If Bond wishes to make maximum impact with a positive EoY report full of exciting news it would best come out early in the New Year. I'm not holding my breath but he does have a history of producing significant news after long periods of silence. I still think the coms of this company is awful but lets see............

How about shareholder discount...................... !!?