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I'm a PI thank you kindly and your insults in no way change my profit shorting this share. Long term value, maybe, over priced on herd sentiment for now.

This is a win for shorters all day long, speculative gambling if your long......IMO

Jambon catch you over on PFC. Best of luck everyone.

Kiwi my old fruit. What happens to your short if the whole thing goes belly up?

Maltloaf. An absence of due diligence on the part of Carillion and HMG. It's a badge of honour for government procurement bods to tender a contract that actually cost the contractor. If I take any joy from this mess it will be those procurement bods getting their loss making contracts back and retendering them to a more educated group of contractors.

Getting an RI underwritten without HMG on board will be a big ask.

Billy. Agreed. I wouldn't do any deal with the old guard. Any deal is brokered with the new CEO on an open book basis.

common sense would be for HMG to provide just enough support for SP to recover so Carillion can do the RI they should have done months ago.

.....staff TUPE back to government and mr and mrs tax payer have to pick up the cost of the increased pension contributions. LGPS employers contributions running at 20%+ as opposed to money purchase schemes at far lower rates. What about all the contracts being serviced at an undervalue which HMG will now have to pay market rates for. If HMG don't do the deal it will cost them one way or another.

Andrew Marr. Tory chairman twice said Carillion is a going concern....

Administrators would have to have been consulted when the board considered that it is foreseeable that the company could not pay creditors on demand. That's been the case for a while now. Can't see any more risk today than a week ago.

RNS Recent rise as a consequence of Deutsche bank taking a position. That's good news!

Oh contrare Dark Elf. Bought at 152, no news and hey presto 173! Quietest board around for a recovering share?

Looks to me like a change of sentiment and a number of half million plus institutional buys over the last couple of days....long may it continue.