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Jarem, if you've taken the time to read that post then you might want to take the time to read the post from Wob that prompted it. ****ging off the professions of others is pretty low and I was just hammering that point home. I also have a family member who has been in recruitment for many moons and so yes, I'm afraid I can say a lot of it has become quite underhand since the wide boys starting choosing it as a career path instead of becoming estate agents. As with any industry, I guess, there are good guys and bad guys but if you'd bothered to read the original post then you'd discover you've jumped the gun ever so slightly with your riposte....
I did reply to that agreeing with you btw....as I said, it used to be a lot easier to tell the good guys from the bad guys!
Possibly something I said KR....I think my posts last night had more expletives in them than Basil Fawlty on crack :s The pros are more careful about the content of their posts ;)
Cheers to that, rodders, bonnet de douche
Think you might be right there, SBP....what happened to the good old days when wholesome share manipulation had to take place on the blower or via the fabled coded trades!
lol Roger, come over to the dark side, you know you want to....I still have you down as a good egg btw...one of the very few left here!!
KR, not yet....I'm continuing personal investigations and urge you to do the same, then we are ready if we need to be....
WW, thank you for clarifying. I'm afraid we have different views on how these groups function, although given you're in one and I chose to leave one, we'll probably just have to agree to disagree.
Sorry but this persistent line 'those who believe the rampers deserve to lose money' sounds as pathological as BT. You can't have it both ways...pedaling, ramping and urging others to buy then claiming it's their fault if they listen; poor form indeed and in fact pretty disgusting. Not saying you're one of the heavy rampers WW but you know full well the ones I'm referring to.
Look, all genuine holders here just want this to come good; the players will no doubt continue playing their games but let's just hope the company comes good for the rest of us who have invested in good faith.
KR, probably best to leave that one lol....my bad for suggesting it but if the need arises to speak to you, Roy etc offline then I'm sure Roy can share it with us then. I'm hoping that need won't arise as it will only be at a point where the company leaves us with no option....I still want and hope this comes good, just sick of the games.
Daily barrage? Get a grip, Sharelock.....it's you lot who are back to posting as if the latest sh*t storm that you had a fairly large hand in ramping up never even happened.
I will ease off if the pathetic attempts at bullying and isolating those who hold a different viewpoint are eased....
WW, I was in that group and I witnessed and unwittingly took part in a 'call to arms' at one stage so I'm sorry, watcher of the warrants, but groups of like minded individuals who don't let others join if they have a contrary viewpoint are very often also referred to as cults.
As for the bi-polar reference, I'm not sure if that was directed towards myself or Roy or both, however, my own seismic shift in stance has come from the fact that I appear to be one of the few f*ckers left who actually believes in investing in a share in a fair and honest way and has no interest whatsoever in influencing the decisions of others. If I can't make money purely on my own judgement and decisions then I have no interest in making it.
Fair play Roy, your call on that one....and no offence Wob but people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. You might be successful in your chosen field but recruitment is hardly a profession to be proud of these days; they are right up there with estate agents in terms of morals and ethics...
Sadly that may still prove to be the case, Roy, although I sincerely hope they aren't continuing to kick people while they are down...that would be the scummiest of the scummy scummiest.....
Although I hate the information hierarchy this company seems to attract, I'm assuming and hoping Sharelock and that naughty shiny star know something most of us don't. Neither of them are stupid and it seems odd they are both so posiitve at a point of apparent crisis....they could of course just be pushing personal agendas but let's hope there's finally some substance behind the positivity....
Let's just hope they can prove us wrong....
Not_sure, with any luck they'll produce some at the eleventh hour, which is well and result upon us....if not then count me in for the class action and I agree, think we have more than enough to go on, especially if MFDev remains trading and for some reason Nuog doesn't....
That's it in a nutshell, Insidious. I too hope the same but your second sentence is exactly what is causing all the problems. Even if I don't agree with Sharelock at this juncture, it's nice to have someone who still believes at least.....
"Clearly after the last raise they expected to deliver something material on those funds, and maybe even since the agm they may have thought they would"
You've just stumbled upon the whole crux of the matter. You're making an assumption there on something that the company should have cleared up in a transparent way many months ago. They are very good at providing all the information and buzz words prior to raising funds, yet ridiculously inept at explaining what happened to said funds when nothing materialises.....
Nonsense, I invested at a time when marginal fields were flavour of the month and everything looked rosy. Both the company and posters such as yourself have posted a good deal of misleading information and timescales since then, which leaves us at the share price we are at today. You can't tell someone who invested off the back of sound research at the time that they shouldn't ever have invested. You're straddling the line here, Sharelock, and your failure to acknowledge the current fragile state of affairs smacks of seadog's (and mine once upon a time) stubbornness and failure to adopt a balanced view. I'm becoming increasingly suspicious as to your PI status....
Sharelock, your latest post provides some logic behind your position, however, all I currently want is a concrete assurance that Nuog is still actively a part of this whole equation.
As for all the speculation over the OO, I personally don't think they are attaching anywhere near as much importance and good intent to it as some are suggesting. I think it's an undesired compromise for the company as result of shareholder objections at the AGM. I don't personally believe there is some grand plan to reward shareholders by delaying the OO, probably more just the admin needed to get their heads around the timings and finer details. I would love nothing more than to be proven wrong, however.....
Sharelock, I'm baffled that you're still so adamant nothing is wrong and these so-called deals are still imminent. The 'companies need funds' line might have worked back in 2016 when it really looked like things were moving, however, how can you defend a company that has had millions since then and refuses to share exactly how they are building a business, other than swinging from one imminent world-changing concept to the next? If the funds really were to build the company then don't you think it's ever so slightly worrying they didn't identify the need for operational costs many months in advance of the latest desperate attempt to get hold of some cash?
Trust me, I want to be as positive as you and it pains me greatly to be so doubtful of my own investment decision after defending it for so long, however, how can you objectively analyse events since Christmas and read seadog's post this morning (details of which I'm sure you were fully aware anyway) and then post so bullishly on here as if everything is fine and on track?
As for the 'one minute Minty's pumping and the next he's crashing it'...it is in fact absolutely plausible. He ramped it when he was Chairman and would receive all the glory, not to mention when Nuog was the main means of raising finance, then he crashed it when he was ousted, got stung by his equity grab denial and MFDev mysteriously secured another means of finance.
Does none of this resonate on any level as alarming? If you can address any or all of these concerns then please, go for it and fill your boots as that is all I think most of us want and what the company so far has failed to provide, any reassurance whatsoever that things haven't taken a much darker turn in Nuog's history.....