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Thanks, Maverick!

I think the frustration a lot of us feel is that the sells (no matter how small) seem to make MASSIVE difference and the BUYS (no matter how big), does f-all. That is not the logic of a free-market, and this has been happening for a long time.

Everyone knows value in shares is from upside so when such strong demand is there, why are these FDH's doing that.

Exactly DW2016!!

Just on the page I was on now had around 100K in BUY and around a quarter was SELL.

That's bloody 4:1 in BUY favour, so how the hell does the price drop!!

Absolutely CSB - no reason at all. And it always happens after the shorters take new positions.

I think I read at least 2 -3 people already logged shorters/ MMs abusing the markets for PFC.

Has anyone managed something like this before? This is a really good idea.

These shorters are comfortably doing whatever they feel like and there's people helping them at our expense!!

When is this supposed to bounce back? We seem to have lost c. 10p in 3 to 4 days?!

Thanks, Maverick - appreciate that! :-)

This drop makes no sense to me. I think a lot of us were thinking there would be a strong push from today.

Those saying MMs are helping shorters, is my thinking too. How is it that the shorters price is always achieved for them.

No one knows the future, but this stock seems to always get to the shorters price - especially on NO NEGATIVE NEWS.

They have all managed to get back in the blue, and the fact this SP drops for them is a serious cause of concern. This is not the first time this has happened and the only question that remains, is why it needs to happen.

Some people have raised FCA cases on this, so it better get looked in to!!

Yeap! Let's focus on the reality of PFC; strong foundations with great returns.

As for fair value - these will change all the time, and it's based on a specific model/ type of calculation (purely accounting). They don't other key factors in to consideration - I am sure they have caveats to cover this off.

Most analysts have price target for PFC of well over £1.50 plus, and one has gone to £3.00.

Happy Friday All.

There has been big drop in UK markets today, to be honest.

shorts took a position based on the global financial situation, primarily seems to be driven off US Fed and Europe CB doing constant f-ups, along with the other CS's.

These central banks are complete f-ing d*gs, and don't have a f-ing clue what they are doing!! Making people pay more money on interest, doesn't mean they are spending less - it means they are spending more on interest - FULL STOP!!

They claim 'interest rate increase' is supposed to encourage saving. How the F do you save, when you are forced to give on mortgage etc, and have the same difference left in bank account, if not less.

I don't like the shorters one single bit, but they have read the markets and gone short on many stocks, ALTHOUGH - PFC has been resilient and can easily jump on sudden news. Based on what I have seen lately, I feel like PFC have got news to release on strategic basis - meaning when they need it the most - which could just be at times like this. Just my thinking....

Deffo - we need the finished ideally 72p. It is just ridiculous how this drop this low with nothing to show for it!!!

Good morning to all!

PFC is no longer in the list of the Top 10 most shorted stocks in UK - about time!!
I should think GLG might try to close out soon. Qube is probably trying to get new positions.

Hi Sm66 - you are welcome. It has updated now, so I think I checked after you.

Yes, agree - to be honest my friend, these complete DH's had more than plenty of opportunity. They can still manage their losses, but if they keep testing the limits, some of the might find themselves with a trading book.

Some shorters went against the Tech sector recently and lost combined $18bn dollars. Good job on them - nice bonus coming their way... lol

Sm66 - 3 of them improved their price BUT I just read the current >0.5%, which is 3.41% - which is a reduction as at today.

So from what I can see is that, they did not anticipate the BULLISH pattern and run of the last 2 days'.
Perhaps these new positions are to off-set previous lower positions, which can result in % increase as they bet higher price/ higher stake, and then they off-set small chucks of losses or position reduction with the gains - IF THEY ARE LUCKY TO GET IT RIGHT.

A big fat unfortunate for them is that the price is now slipping away at every attempt they are trying to manage their losses.

Now - just imagine if the corporates start buying along with the directors of PFC.... We are very likely to see a range of high 80s or even touch 90p range just like that!!

Good evening to all buyers/ holders!

Nice one Maverick - good intel, hoping it gets there today!!

Greats comms and posts everyone - thank you.

Amazing news.

I noticed PFC are mentioned in many articles and well resected sites too!!

Haha! Yes I agree speedygon - they can do one!

I think they have covered themselves with to a long position, so that's the other way they can get out of the short position (losses) is to leverage on the long (BUY) direction and probably have a break even around £1 ish (depending on how much weighting they apply).

They will need to start to close off short losses in order to bet gain on the long. After that they can just go long like us, to make the money in favour of the market sentiment.

The 3.53% is just for those above 0.5%. PFC had c. 11% so the 7-8% have been closing from what I could gather.

I don't think the shorts with more than 0.5% are declaring per the time-line because they want to make it look like something is wrong with PFC and they know something no one else does. Also, there are those below the 0.5% who I am sure are closing off and going long, cause the demand to surge in SP.

Also, it could be just that they are not being prioritised over the real market buyers and getting LEFT BEHIND!!

There we go 75p, a day after I said it would but good either way!

That's right DarkKnight - I was always thinking the same.

Also, was expecting the 70p range this week, going to high 70p and in to 80s next week.