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That's right, Dark_Knight

Buys and sells should be relative!! This stock is not behaving in a normal stock manner; this has happened countless times and therefore it has to be manually controlled. No way a system will favour the sells more than the buys!!!

AND MORE 40,000 SHARES BROUGHT!!

SO HOW THE HELL IS THE PRICE STILL IN LOW 60P WHEN THE SELLS ARE NO WHERE NEAR THE BUYS!!!!???!!

Very well said, PFCvetran.

The SP should have been between 90p to 100p this week!!

Yes, I am seeing those buys, Dark Knight. Thanks.

Exactly Dark_Knight..... I agree with you.

But what I am saying it, buys and sells should be fairly equal. There have been countless days where the buys completely overtake the sells, and the SP does not make any difference, but as soon as some sells go through, it drops.

It is really system generated?? Stocks are supposed to rise - especially on GOOD NEWS - so why is it that PFC is one of the few stocks that works in complete opposite.

Shareholders dont make money when SP goes down - so with so many investors, I find it very hard to believe that people just want to sell at a loss. Most people have not brought at these levels before, so yes, given there are a few who brought low and sold, but lets not forget - they also BROUGHT at some point and it didnt make much difference, because we this contract news - we should have been around 110p to 120p today!!!

There is significantly higher weighting given on sells - WHY???

The supply and demand should be relative to each-other. How is it possible the the BUYs make very little difference, but with little sells, the stock goes down this much.

This is a market manipulation and more of us should be reporting this what is going on. It is actually illegal and serious consequences to those that are taking part. The FCA have the tools to be able to investigate and take action.

What are we going to do about this. We can't just watch this stock being messed around!!

@Dark_Knight.

The short % has gone down, which is what is making me extremely concerned as to why the SP is down over 10p on biggest contract news, PLUS, there are more BUYS than sells.

So why the drop every day??!! Where is this SP going?? Buyers/ investors expect it to go up, but it does opposite?!!

Looks like the shorters have got new higher positions to make (some) of their initial losses back.

However, to take a position on short and then to sell a stock or cause drop by any means if against the Markets Act - which is illegal!!!!

Thanks, Dark-Knight.

Where is this broker rating update.

I can't find anything by jefferies for 70p?!

I THINK THEY MEANT 170P!!

There is no logic to this expect it has to be more in line with other Analysts and to cut it more than half is just not right. To cut it half is to say PFC has not got any business or awards. Whoever has done this, need to correct this mess asap!!!

There are more BUYS going through then SELL... So how on earth does it keep going down!!!

We finished yesterday on high 70ps so how does it start off so low considering everything?!

ANSWER: This is 100% MM.

jefferies are working with the shorters!!!

FCA need to investigate who are behind the price movements. It's clear they want to take as minimum losses as possible. But that is control and that is ILLEGAL in the UK. In fact, it's a criminal offence.

We should be asking FCA to look at this - there is a clear pattern of when it goes up and when it goes down and stays down - shorters keeping stocks and then selling them quickly just to make money and reduce their losses.

We need to get on to FCA please!

Amazing - thank you very much, PhatStyle.

I want FCA to look at who is messing around with the STOCK PRICE AND MOVEMENT, and not the company. It is absolutely wrong that our personal investment and value in a company is dictated by a handful who have the TOOLS and OPTIONS to 'decide' when a price should rise and fall. What on Earth is that about?!!

I am sorry, but I have to speak my mind. We are not asking for favours or freebies - we just don't want to messed around.

Also, the whole shorting model should be paper-based as I was told by a firm once; meaning, they are just taking a stake per point (per penny) against a firm who borrowed them, and if the shares go down then shorter makes money, and if the shares go up, the firm borrowing makes money. That made perfect sense to me. So how on Earth are they able to impact the REAL MARKET PRICE - as in they shouldn't be able to. All they are doing is a gamble trade, whereas we are doing a real life investment for growth!!

But, how can you sell something you don't even own. That's completely against the motion of what an investor - BUYER is trying to do. And to make it worse, these shorters can then buy back long for the upside gain.

The value based model of investing does not exist as it seems - and that is the ONLY reason why this stock is not like it's peers or higher £3, £4, £5 and so forth!

That's my only argument and I feel like I speak for many when I say this, IMO.

Have a good weekend all.

Thanks, Warthog4.

Agree with you and I would like to think the regulators' can put controls in. The issue is the regulators are not proactive in looking to make things better - they tend to wait for things to go wrong.

Look what the FED and BoE are doing with interest rate rises - it's absolute nonsense - those that can AFFORD to spend, WILL SPEND because they don't need to worry about loans/ credit cards etc - they have money.

I am really glad to see the Senators in USA are hard on those that are left un-checked - FED knew about SVB for years and still let the interest rate rises go up. And now UK BoE blaming early retirements as the contribution of potential recession.

I have gone off tangent with about, but my point is simply saying we need to be on top of these world government and central bodies as they are not quite capable against the likes of the City as you say. City will always be steps ahead, but what we can ask for is PROTECTION via ACCURATE RISK MANAGEMENT INFORMATION.

Thanks, phatstyle4321

I see good amount of buyers coming in now, BUT your point has been on my mind before. HOWEVER, now after such a big deal and to see it go from mid-80s to around 75p next day is unacceptable!!!

WHY SHOULD WE CARE IF THE SHORTERS NEED TO GET OUT OF THEIR LOSSES - WHY GET IN IN THE FIRST PLACE IF YOU CANT HANDLE THE CONSEQUENCES!!

I don't know if PFC investment team have any control here but they need to be asking why there is a ceiling on this stock?!? This is the main reason why this stock is not what the ANALYSTS have stated - their numbers are good and fair.

Just like there was a free-fall for no good reason, there should be the opposite for rise on such amazing news!!

So, who is keeping it low - shorters need others to help them. 100% we should be raising a case on this - this is pure manipulation from what it looks like unless anyone is able to explain with logic and reason.

Also, for public investors, we should ask FCA/ PRA to make it mandatory to declare any company (like PFC) that allows any firms to borrow shares out - this is an extremely toxic model and takes away the whole essence of investment in company. That is not a comment or attack on PFC but some one else also said same yesterday, we need declarations up front so we are well informed of what we are dealing with.

But, it's clear - if we know there are companies allowing their stocks to be shorted - no sensible investor will go near it from the public side, and it will just be a battle of the institutions, which I think for all those buyers and LTH (public), we will gladly stay away!!

1.7m and another 1m shares were traded after market hours.

The 1.7m shares was a BUY.

Good question Chippyg - I am keen to understand the technical aspects from anyone please.

My understanding was that the supply and demand got to a peak stage (80p range) whereby the demand for buy essentially the price for existing holders to sell, since there wasn't many it opened on 65p (pre-market), and then we had what I can assume shorters buying back in scramble, which is why I noticed 'indicative trading' going on - essentially trading was frozen while the book-makers were adjusting to such unexpected demands.

Eventually, it got to a range (80p range) where by the demands and sells were somewhat equalling each other, but the demand for buy was stronger because huge sells came in later afternoon, but SP still held. Tomorrow would be a key day but we should expect a steady rise or at least hold, while the market assesses the current buy in price.

AIMHO.

Most buyers are hoping for this Ronnie! ;-)