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Hopefully twitching (even if incorrect) price changes are a sign that this is coming to life. End of Jan would be great, but some concrete news would be very welcome. Some big investors here including Raglan, so hopefully it will all come together.
I forgot to address that Thompi, thank you. I won't respond directly to Eric's strange "ladies" comment. Board readers can judge for themselves what he is trying to infer by that and decide if they want to align to that sort of approach to reasoned debate on a public discussion board. I'm over and out.
LoL, I wasn't even attempting to paraphrase the interview. My point is that it is possible for CF or his "PR company" to try to counter overly enthusiastic but genuinely held promises if there are reasons to do so, rather than just ignoring them and hoping that nobody will notice. I hope you aren't going to deny that we have been promised some good news by Xmas. That is my point, but Eric has decided I have sneaky "tactics" by mentioning this. I am holding, not even in a significant kind of way, though it is to me, and I genuinely want this to go boom. I'm sorry that some of us can't fit into the OO bingo card of "got to believe", "you're either a shorter or not a proper grown up investor unless you're willing to watch your money sit and do nothing for 2-15 years before it grows", "next year is the year" etc. plus the AIM board golden oldies, "Just topped up", "Wouldn't want to be out over the weekend", "buys showing as sells" . I DO want OO to boom, I really do and I still hope it will, otherwise I wouldn't be here. However, fun as it is, I have no desire to get in to utterly futile arguments on here so I will say good luck to us all and fingers remain crossed.
Oh, that "tactic" of expecting people to do what they say they will do or explain why they can't do it and give what may well be perfectly reasonable explanations for a delay. Yes, very snide that. LoL. Merry Christmas.
I.e.
"I had said that I hoped to deliver something special for shareholders by Xmas but unfortunately, due to regulatory issues that I can't discuss in detail, this may be delayed somewhat but it will come". (Feel free to forward to the pr team, gratis). Or better still, don't make wild promises in the first place. Meanwhile I'll keep checking under my tree for that rns!
Yes he did so we are eagerly awaiting the fantastic pre Xmas news. That was promised and reiterated.
Let's hope so, at least we only have a few weeks before we'll find out!
Thanks for the notes. Sounds very promising and as long as that Orph news is delivered and is as described by xmas, then fingers can remain optimistically crossed. Great to read that so many direct questions were asked and answered.
Looking forward to serious updates tomorrow to differentiate this to some spins on a roulette wheel. No news, no viable contracts means a rush to sell when the lock in ends. Nobody wants that. Orph holders getting starved of news it seems. Fingers crossed for a substantial and credible update. No jam tomorrow (as in "bear with us for 2 years" nonsense please.
People saying we now have to wait for 24 months longer for these amazing returns when we've been waiting for nearly two years since the pandemic started. Come on.
Hvivo is doing great at what Hvivo do, and that's excellent but we've been led along by promises of great returns on Flu-V and DIM etc. Polb isn't exactly inspiring confidence either. Most people simply won't wait for two more years (or two more months) for vague promises after so many have been broken. We need either a serious new piece of killer contract news, or an imminent and sensibly organized spin off that doesn't drop millions into the pockets of the directors in the process.
Believe in the "fundamentals" all you like (which are Hvivo only imo, the rest is all a gamble/unknown until we have actual evidence of genuine commercial interest in the other parts like Dim etc.) Happy clapping about having "faith" etc. is pointless. News or serious activity please, proper news or activity. Asap.
What a bizarre excuse for the sell off. Furloughed people who are now back in work and so selling their "hobby shares" willy nilly? Really?
No actual news on these spin offs which are supposed to be what is holding us back/about to release the amazing potential of the business? What a poor response. Just adds fuel to the blarney-itis fire. But thank you for obtaining it.
Is anything more actually going to spin out? Where are the plans? Where is the news? Is Polb going to make any money before the lock in ends to stop its price collapsing when the contrived lock in ends? Is OO, beyond the testing skills of HVO which are not in doubt, going to deliver anything at all or has OO, beyond HVO lost the perceived early advantage in all of what we all saw as its incredible and fortunate "head start" 19 months ago as the rest of the scientific world has turbo charged forwards their response to Covid. CF said "Covid was over" in a recent presentation. I'm close to calling this a duster and clearly I'm not the only one. Please prove me wrong but "believing" and "being patient" just isn't cutting it any more. Big news is needed and needed very soon .
We seem to have been "running" on nods and winks for the last 6 months. Hope it goes well tonight and is followed up by some actual progress with RNS to match.
If that's aimed at me it was factual. She genuinely thought/still thinks it is still an independent and organic etc. brand and received a package today and didn't mention a change of heart as, like most people, she just ripped open the box to get to the contents.
Took a small slice of these yesterday. My wife's birthday is coming up and she was telling me she only wants cosmetics from Look Fantastic as it's her favourite (and she's quite fussy). I resisted trying to explain that it's now part of thg as I thought that might disappoint her but that's as good an endorsement as I need. Fingers crossed.
Agree re filter button. Have recently filtered several relentless happy clappers whom I no longer give any credence to. CF really needs to put up, and put up soon. I really genuinely hope he does. Slapping down people for pointing out some of the glaring disconnects between what he has promised and what he has failed to deliver *without him taking any time to explain why things have slipped* does not make you come across as a "loyal believer". It makes you look like a ramper with an agenda. I think a lot of PI's will be ditching here soon if there isn't substantial news within the next month or so but I really hope to be persuaded otherwise asap. Too many promises no longer making sense especially re imutex and spin out promises. As for that cash dividend, and "the share price doubling every 6 months"...
We are heading into winter, the media is continually referring to flu worries. Where is the flu-v news flow?
Thanks for the notes. Sounds super positive, but then these presentations always do.
Orph needs some regular positive news flow starting from now. Parking the bus until after Xmas is not sufficient. Surely so many potential positive angles with all the spin offs to come. What happened to the cash dividend by Xmas?
Haven't seen a recent RNs unless there was one at the start of Sept nor any OO PR. I thought they'd signed a hot PR company? What are they doing? Looks like it's a bread and butter trial as far as Hvivo are concerned, the fact that it's Pfizer doesn't make it something groundbreaking unless there's official news that says otherwise. Am a long time holder and lurker here, still just about in the black but getting increasingly disillusioned by the way this is going.