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Very strongly held and quite hard to buy.
This will be re rated soon and should step up to around £1.60
Way undervalued right now.
Nice large trades today including large late trade at full ask of 3.5p.
This bodes well for tomorrow and the rest of the week.
Just like at IDE once news hits you wont stand a chance of buying any.
Thats a very good point Shakey, it is hard enough to buy right now but once they announce news of a contract then you would have zero chance.
Thats why you should always take a position long before the expected news hits.
Nice rise again today onwards and up.
Could easily see 10p this week with 30p still my main target.
IDE is where I would have most of my money if I was asked to chose.
However unlike horse racing more than one horse can win.
Can I just point out as well the dark horse in all of this equine chat.
MXCP.
Some excellent posts on that thread by a poster called Raleigh have shown in detail how it is MXCP that profits the most
and that a share price several years along the road of £2.80 is entirely feasible in fact it is very much on the cards.
MXCP is very undervalued right now and I am buying it as well.
Good luck whatever you decide to do I hope we all make a lot of money.
IDE do this.
General IT helpdesk service.
Broadband direct fiber between sites or a virtual MPLS connection (which is important in relation to IDE)
Phone services, VOIP, managed IVR type services
Cloud services hosted email services, backup, remote storage.
Colocation (put your servers in IDE's own datacentre, or one of of the ones where they have space in the UK.)
Managed Servers, either on premises or colo'd
Software licenses like Office 365 etc
Hardware supply on a lease basis
Setup your own on-site networking, both wiring, and configuration
Device lifecycle management, supply and maintain, end of life, ensure it's securely wiped etc.
IDE do all of this on a large scale AD4 don't come close.
CloudCoco could be replicated by people wanting to be in this sector within 1 week.
It is just a re seller of Giacom Services.
IDE has a large network around the UK with a lot of support staff and engineers, especially in the London area.
They have a set up in Dartford amongst others.
There is a large scope for cross selling within current IDE customers let alone new ones.
This is something the old management messed up.
Their Data Centre in Bournemouth is the only one in the entire area and very under utilised due to mismanagement
It should be operating fully and they should be building more.
Now that new management are back on track this will happen.
The website for IDE is an absolute joke and they need to get that sorted as a priority.
It doesn't tell their customers even half of what they can do.
Their MPLS network page is a complete shambles.
They need to get this sorted asap.
A lot of current customers don't even know what they can do.
This has to be addressed by new management urgently and if done properly can pull in vast amounts of new revenue.
Once all of this and more is done IDE can very quickly become an MSP Giant.
It is also what MXLG are trying to set up with their Building a 'Daisy' project.
IDE would be very compatible so could well be bought out by that project for some serious money once
it is on the proper track again.
The upside in IDE is tremendous and everything is already there.
They just have to organise it properly and sell their services a lot better.
As promised here is some more insight with regards to what IDE do and are capable of doing.
I am a firm holder here.
I hold also at AD4.
I hope that AD4 continues onwards and up.
But my main holding is here and here are some reasons why.
After all the dust settles you always find that the people who jump on board because
they simply watch the risers list and are gamblers take whatever profit they can and they disappear
from the threads as quickly as they first arrived.
I don't mind this, we are all here to make money.
But I find it easier to pick a winner and stay with it than take a small profit and then try and find yet another winner.
It would be like waiting until Hamilton had just about secured another F1 season and then switching your bet to a no hoper.
You might get a few following you but ultimately Hamilton is going to win.
IDE have just secured a new contract with the Justice Dept.
Ian Smith sits at tables with Giants such as Liberty Global and Ravenscroft group.
Martin Bolland has supported and backed and still backs Ian Smith and MXCP since day 1.
Bolland set up Capita and Alchemy.Multi billion pound organisations.
Ian Smith is...CEO of IDE. (does that help?)
Hope that answers your question.
CloudCocos Graham Halpin helped IDE to do that.(contract)
He is now back at CC .
Look you must try and understand ,MXCP own a % of CC it was set up by the Redcentric sales team when Red was split up.
Ian Smith founder of MXCP (and founder of all these companies) is for want of a better way of putting it The Lord, and CC AD4 IDE amongst others are the Rings.
I like AD4 I simply like IDE a whole lot more.
Think of IDE as being the Big stage star performer at Glastonbury whilst AD4 is playing a set for free in a tent round the back of one of the beer tents.
That's the difference between the 2.
You cant have a £40m mkt cap that's sustainable for very long unless you have an underlying business to support it.
IDE has turnover of over £41m
AD4 has about £6m
AD4 has a longer road to recovery ahead, but that's not to say it wont get there as I think it will.
Hedge your bets is what I would do that's all.
And dont forget MXCP as it is due a re rating.
Good luck whatever you decide I hope we all make some money.
Guys I know you are excited about the prospects here but lets not get to carried away.
I like AD4 and I own shares in it but the real action will be had at IDE where I also own shares.
AD4 will do fine once everything is sorted out but you have to remember a few important things.
AD4 is just a small re-seller.
IDE is the real deal.
And everything you have posted re AD4 is X's 50 for IDE.
IDE does everything in house it is not a re-seller, which anyone can set up in a week.
IDE has data centres that are way under used but being geared up.
It is situated in an area that has no competition to them at all.
Only 20m shares are available.
MXCP and Kestrel etc have way way more invested in IDE than AD4 and so should you.
They will be ensuring that IDE gets first dibs on any good deals.
I am not trying to dampen your spirits I am trying to help.
I want all of us to make money.
But we must be positioned correctly.
For me I would go 60% IDE and 25% AD4 and the remaining 15% in the banker which is MXCP.
MXCP is where you should be sending any profits.
I hope AD4 continues to rise but your slightly off track in that it is IDE that has the most to gain and the wherewithal to do it.
IDE can comfortably carry a £40m and a £50m and even £100m mkt cap value it owns very lucrative data centres and, as all its services are in house it makes much larger profits.
IDE is likely to hit 30p and beyond because MXCP and all the other backers need that just to break even.
AD4 is a slightly different scenario
I am telling you this as a 'heads up' not to rain on your parade.
By all means hold some AD4.
I hope we all make a lot of money.
MXCP owns part of CloudCoco they invested in it at the startup I believe when the Redcentric sales team set it up.
So in effect some of the shares will be theirs.
MXCP is overdue a re rating this should be way beyond £1 by now.
Can easily hit 10p next week.
Will be posting why over the long weekend but not tomorrow.
10p is nothing there is a lot to come.
Their not showing all the trades on here or on Nex.A 50k buy went through earlier. At 2pm
Why are there no trades showing here since 11am?
They are hiding the buys and putting them through on the NEX market today.
Thanks mate.
I will be adding a lot of more in depth info re IDE and what they do and the potential held within the co.
Maybe at the weekend if I get the time , it has been a busy week :)
This one has incredibly strong support in the price.
If it falls people like me are waiting in the wings with cash to top up.
So it cant really fall very far and only treeshakes and other mm tricks will see it go any lower and not for long.
News will send this into orbit.
Guys can I just point out 1 thing ok .
The backers MXCP and Kestrel etc Also Nigel Wray wont be selling a single share in IDE or AD4.
I know how they operate.
MXCP and Kestrel (Max Royde) are all interlinked and invested in ALL MXCP companies.
Along with retired stockbroker ans serial investor Richard Griffiths.
Ravenscroft bought 25% of the MXCP operating business last year.
Ravenscroft are Stephen Lansdown multi billionaire founder of Hargreaves Lansdown
MXCP are also working on a joint venture 50/50 with Liberty Global one of the largest companies on the planet and has Warren Buffet as their largest shareholder.
Liberty Global approached and asked MXCP to build them up from scratch a £100m -£500m IT Services company.
MXCP have already started doing this.
NOBODY involved will sell ANY IDE or AD4 not ever.
The way MXCP work is to build companies up to critical mass and then they cash out by selling them.
IDE for example would be a perfect fir for the Liberty Global deal which is known as MXLG (not liste privately owned by mxcp and liberty)
So the only people selling any shares in either company will be profit taker and the like.
This is not up for question it is the plan it is what MXCP do.
Hope this info helps.
It can all be found on the various connected sites and RNS's.
And so it came to pass.
Well done guys lots more to come.
That's a decent sized buy considering its hard to buy even 50'000 at times.
God alone knows what happens if we get news!!
And as I have said they recently secured a long term contract with a large client.
Possibly their largest client in fact.
In the IT services world the grapevine knows just about everything that goes on.
Hammered, because there literally is no stock available.
You have to wait until someone sells a few for your order to be filled.
Sometimes you can get lucky as there are a few sells and sometimes not.
It changes by the minute.
There will always be a few profit taking that's what makes a market.
Without them we have nothing.
What is important is the overall trend and buying or selling strength.
This is a strong buy all the way to 30p imo.
But it wont get there in one day.
The story is a good one the stock has a 500 ft solid Granite floor which is that 94.8% of all the shares in issue are locked and cant and wont be sold.
That leaves less than 20m but its tighter than that as I know 3 others who hold more than 1.5m each not including myself and we are not selling either.
Add to that the ones who hold 500k shares and you can see that there is likely to be much less than 10m shares available to trade and I expect the number is actually 200'000 to 500'000 going by the amounts available to buy over the past few weeks.
We could actually do with a few more sells so that others who want in can get in or top up.