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Stroll lied to shareholders bare faced, he should face the consequences.

My bet is he owns very few shares, but duped idiots into buying them instead,

(how much is Piciotto down now, millions!!!) inside the Yewtree umbrella, to make it look as though he was invested.

I bet my last buck that he is a massive bondholder and taking his 10-10.5% in interest every year with a smile. Rich people only get rich by transferring money from others to themselves.

Hallmark doesn't care, he gets a massive package for just being there. Same as Felisa, private jet to work, then laying off workers.

2 factories is the main problem, would shareholders rather one was closed to save their investment? Nice little thought experiment for the ones that are left, Vorlich?

You have to question anyone supporting the company now. Either a fanboy, financially illiterate, or a paid poster. No-one could be this dumb.

DBX was supposed to be the saviour, they were many years too late and it's done and dusted.

Brand new range of cars was supposed to save them, sales are stagnating because they cost too much and depreciate 100k in 12 months.

Rich people are not idiots with regards to car buying.

It was risky when Larry took over, now it's just borderline, laughably embarrassing.

"Ultra luxury".

Hope is not a strategy.

Huge 400k sell at 4pm caused the drop.

Who's selling?

Another 10% drop, everyone knows what's coming.

Is ANYONE still holding or buying?

Debt for equity swap, any takers?

Shorts are ramping up again, they know the writing is on the wall.

If no-one wanted to make a bid a year ago, they are less likely to now, more debt, fewer sales, bigger headwinds.... Looking at you Geely.

You know a company is in dire straits when the only hope is a takeover.

And a fair proportion of those cars sold in 2024 are sitting in dealer forecourts.

So hardly 'sold'.

I am finding it difficult to find a share that has worse prospects than this.

All the rampers have gone quiet since they took a beating.

The gross debt is 1.5 bn at between 10% and 10.5% interest.

Burning through £1.1m per day.

Q1 is the quietest of the 4, and huge debt interest has to be paid in Q2.

Cash raise coming soon folks, they raised £210m in November and that is now 4 months ago.

Beware.

I see the Sky F1 team have Aston Martin down in 9th our of 10 teams, from data at testing.

Papa Stroll, you are such a winner.

Https://www.ft.com/content/3842370b-1f0c-4d56-a7fc-cb516297d4c8

SELL: Aston Martin Lagonda (AML)

The company expects to post positive free cash flow in the second half of 2025, but significant question marks remain, writes Christopher Akers.

Aston Martin Lagonda said it would cut 5 per cent of its global workforce to support future investment, as the luxury sports car maker pointed to expectations of a “material improvement” in financial performance this year after it delayed its first battery electric vehicle (BEV) again and posted another chunky loss.

The job cuts are forecast to save around £25mn, with half of those coming this year. Chief executive Adrian Hallmark said that “our focus now shifts to operational execution and delivering financial sustainability”.

Wholesale volumes dipped by 9 per cent to 6,030 vehicles in 2024, but improved by 10 per cent in the second half on the back of the company’s new Vantage and upgraded DBX707 and V12 Vanquish models.

The key question for investors is whether sustainable free cash flow can ultimately be generated. The annual free cash outflow worsened to £392mn, but the company expects sequential improvement in 2025 and positive generation in the second half. It also forecasts positive adjusted operating profit generation, helped by mid-single-digit percentage volume growth.

Key to the outlook is Valhalla, Aston Martin’s first mid-engined plug-in hybrid electric vehicle. Deliveries will start in the second half. But the launch of the company’s first BEV is now expected in the “latter part of this decade” after it was previously pushed back to 2026.

Despite significant fundraisings, the losses have kept coming and net debt of £1.2bn is painfully high. The company’s adjusted net leverage ratio shot up from 2.7 times to 4.3 times, year on year. 

Gross debt £1.5223 BILLION

Net debt £1.1627 BILLION

2025 to be much the same as 2024, from the CEO, Hallmark.

So expect another almost £400m cash outflow.

How they raise this money is crucial. Adding to the debt would be fatal.

It will almost have to be a huge cash raise, or sell the company for peanuts.

All this is Stroll's making:

Wasting 100m in payments to his F1 team over 5 years.

Wasting £s in hugely embarrassing marketing, lavish launch parties, laying on expensive trips for journalists and influencers, expensive stores in NYC, Felisa's private jet etc.

All doing NOTHING for car sales or the share price, shafting shareholders while bondholders make 10-10.5% annual interest on the debt.

The DBX is a complete failure. DB12 and Vantage nice cars but way too expensive, owners losing 100k in depreciation in 1 year.

I told you all years ago, Stroll will run AML into the ground just like he did with Asprey & Garrard, then walk away unscathed, making money from bonds while shareholders take a serious haircut, then a bath, then another haircut.

This is why the share price got properly whacked this week, the market realises Stroll is an utter buffoon with a propensity for screaming ultra luxury at everyone without a proper plan.

Another silver spoon idiot who looks after himself and his family and screws everyone else.

Vote against him at the next AGM, send a message.

Gross debt is now DOUBLE the market cap.

Another year of exactly the same numbers, and that's what CEO said, so lets say they will probably dip a bit.

Q1 will be horrendous again.

SSO right on the money as usual.

How are you going to takeover AML when Stroll and Yewtree hold all the voting rights?

Hallmark should be buying some AML shares, skin in the game, prove to us all that he means it.

Why 60p? Sounds like someone just plucked a number out the air as they have opened a short.

Shorts will be closing this afternoon for the weekend, I do hope that doesn't catch you out ;)

If only people could stick to fundamentals, and keep the swearing to themselves that would be great.

No need for it, it doesn't achieve anything.

Show's how much you know about Stroll and what he has in place for unwanted takeovers.

Sorry, autocorrect on my phone.

Some people do buy on here based on what they read.

BMN had a BB where all dissenters got lambasted and banned, and now it is suspended. A lot of people lost a lot of money.

AML has a low public float, hence why it has a high delta and wild swings.

I am just here for balance. That’s all.

Take it or leave it. :)

Runners. The only ace I have to grind is with paid rampers and fanboys on here.

Proven wrong time after after but they do everything that can to get people buying the shares they don’t want.

It’s really simple.

If AML do get hit with tariffs, it could be the end of them.

I mean that in all sincerity.

They struggle to sell even 6000 cars now, and make losses in the hundreds of millions. Imagine only selling 4000, or 4500, they would need cash raises every 3 months to survive, adding to debt when it's already £1.5bn. Completely unsustainable.

The only reason this company is floated is to fleece private investors, and people like PIF. I bet they are regretting their decision to trust Stroll now too.

Are they selling shares? A lot of huge sells these last few days. If so, who will want to buy into AML now? Stroll has had years and royally fecked it.

Even valued at 500m, you have to buy 1.5bn in debt, inherit 2 factories when only 1 is required etc.

Can't wait to read SSO's report, he was right all along.

Toto, you still own AML shares? ;)

Https://companiesmarketcap.com/gbp/aston-martin/marketcap/

The company low was 0.45bn for market cap, almost half what we are now.