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Oooo!-Oooo!-Oooo! The tapes will be entering the case in the back adjacent to each other losing 5cm each to give the required 50cm length then the case itself, solar panel towards the Sun, antennae towards the Earth will be acting as a reflector. Almost just like you old rooftop TV Aerial. Sumz are fun!

Going totally down the rabbit hole...

https://twitter.com/SwarmInternet/status/1135942603269070848

Yes. Assuming you can see the picture Swarm are using steel tape measures as antennae!1!

The above is linked to from a post on the previously mentioned thread at,

https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=47072.0

https://swarm.space/

"UNIQUELY SMALL SATELLITES

Swarm has the smallest operational satellites in space, at just ¼U (11 x 11 x 2.8 cm). Because of their small size, they cost much less to launch than most satellites, and we pass these savings along to our customers."

11+2.8+11+2.8 = 27.6cm and two wraps gets you 55.2cm

A half wave dipole comprises two quarter wave elements. The wavelength of a 150MHz signal is (lambda = c/f) is 2 metres so they need two 50cm elements. That might almost work but I'm not sure about the big (11cm) gap in the middle after deployment. Maybe there is something going on on the other side.

However we appear to be in the ballpark.

The problem is that if they change to far away from 150MHz, perhaps to accommodate Wyld the the efficiency of the antennae will drop. At least I think that is the case. However it does not strike me as being a biggy.

"Most of the Semiconductor companies attending / presenting have arrangements with either Device Authority or Wyld Networks...."

Dude. If you use semiconductors you can't avoid them.

Having made a caveat about trucks of salt and given Flave has just posted an ADVFNesque appraisment, seriously even RedEye manage to be more circumspect whilst not plucking random numbers out of their bottoms...

The fly in the ointment might be the operating band. Wyld uses 900MHz,

https://wyldnetworks.com/preorders

That is not a solid. The AM102 specifies as such but the AM104 seems slightly different

AM102: Operates in International 868/915 MHz ISM band

AM104: Supports international ISM bands for terrestrial IoT networks

Digging deeper. Se what I am doing here. I'm not being random I am trying to give imformation that backs up my drivel. The boards use the Semtech 1261/1262 ic's.

AM102: https://www.semtech.com/products/wireless-rf/lora-connect/sx1261

AM104: https://www.semtech.com/products/wireless-rf/lora-connect/sx1262

Both can cover 150MHz to 960MHz which is, or will be, software definable.

The Fly is that it would appear that the Swarm Constellation operates over,

https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-19-1044A1.pdf

"Swarm proposes to operate the satellites using frequencies in portions of the 137-138 MHz (space-to-Earth) and 148-149.95 MHz (Earth-to-space) bands."

So that is, apparently, a miss.

Now that situation may have or will be changed. The 137-150MHz range should not in and off itself be fixed. In as much as Wyld can software define their Semtech kit to work over 150-960MHz Swarm should have the same capability for their satellites. It would be remarkably silly if that were not the case.

However I thought it might be worth mentioning.

The following is another example of my idle speculation and, whilst it naturally has more credibility than the "MMs short on stock next leg up to50p on the Horizon.NASA is going to buy Tern." , it should still be taken with a truckload of salt.

So, and as previously stated, they are going into production and delivery starting next month. Do have a poke around their recent release and previous ones. My wet finger suggests that they might have non-exclusive, access to, via partnership, at most 30 LEO satellites. $8.6 million at $40 a pop maxes out at 215K modems. It will likely be less because some of the applications will make use of base stations. If I recall 5 satellites gives you one pass per day so 30 will give you 6. Does that hack it for 215K devices. I would say not.

As I see it the only way they can launch at scale would be if and when they are confident that they can reliably service all of those prospective data points or quite rapidly and seamlessly bring them on board. Quite simply in order to do so they need access to a large LEO LoraWan satellite constellation.

https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=47072.0

"Swarm Technologies Applies to operate 150 sats

« on: 01/01/2019 09:26 pm »"

Whilst the figure 150 is mentioned later in the thread later on it is suggested that...

https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=47072.msg2107925#msg2107925

Swarm appears to have doubled the size of their constellation from 150 to 300, adding spacecraft propulsion, and deleting the Ku-radar reflectors they added to try and address concerns about how well their vehicles could be tracked.

https://twitter.com/FccSpace/status/1283914364123148288?s=20

You don't sell product that requires a service if you cannot guarantee that service and you certainly don't start delivering that product that requires a service if you do not have that service in place.

If Wyld have snaffled access to Swarms constellation, and that is the only way I can see this working, then this is Game On. If not it is Game Flop.

There has been some confusion over the nature of the previous announcement about a collaboration with SpaceX. First the way it was made. A spike in Wylds SP followed by one in Tern which only then was follwed by what appeared to be a forced announcement by both companies with what turned out to be very little detail leaving matters open to further speculation.

Now they are going into what appears to be full scale manufacture and delivery. Again that does not happen unless you can guarantee the service. By extension and assuming that it will be on Swarms constellation that means that they must already have verified the functionality of the combined systems. I might imagine that when that was confirmed internally it might have been a bit hard to stop some sort of hint leaking forcing a watered down announcement.

I'll paraphrase that for InvestorACE

"Flobba Dobbah Dub Flub."

As an add to the mix for those such as Sweepie3 who has accused me of being Moriarity, Always with the negative waves.

Also consider the lifetime of LEO satellites including cost of replacement and maintenance of such a constellation.

https://www.spaceacademy.net.au/watch/debris/orblife.htm

https://spacenews.com/fcc-to-set-five-year-deadline-for-deorbiting-leo-satellites/

Not only is Swams LEO constellation nominally now defunct it only has at most a five year lifespan. If they were not to be using it then they would not be inclined to maintain or replenish it. However if Wyld takes it over and can generate enough cash to support it, with assistance from SpaceX and Swarm then this is a big win win for all concerned.

Whilst Wylds apparent Lorawan Market may be impacted by the entry of 5G NB-IoT now with titular access to their own shiny shiny substantial LEO constellation that would open up the LoraWan niches available to them in a significant way. It becomes a market they might now capture and dominate. SpaceX might be open to such a collaboration given Wyld have likely demonstrated that they have a prospective customer base capable of supporting the cost of operation of Swarms existing constellation.

It is a win win opportunity for all concerned.

I'll paraphrase that for InvestorACE

"Flubba Dubbah Wobba Flub."

A little light reading

https://www.soracom.co.uk/blog/nb-iot-vs-lorawan/

https://blog.semtech.com/lorawan-5g-fact-vs-fiction-comparing-to-nb-iot

https://ubidots.com/blog/lorawan-vs-nb-iot/

https://blog.velosiot.com/difference-between-lorawan-nbiot

My take being that these are, will be, complementary technologies with different advantages for different use cases the general upshot being that LoraWan will ultimately be driven into market niches with 5G NB-IoT becoming prominent elsewhere. In power terms Lorawan is better but, depending on application, not significantly so.

The big shout for LoraWan is unlicensed spectrum but you have to consider that companies that have 5G licenses have already paid for and bought up the spectrum on a term basis. It is in effect a flat cost so the desire is to maximise its use and overall profitability. If your 5G voice/broadband cellular network supports the licensing cost, and it should, then your 5G NB-IoT comes for free or is at least subsidised.

Wylds interest in 5G NB-IoT is likely not only driven by the extra markets it provides but also because it is going to impact on the markets available to them via LoraWan. Again I will suggest that Wyld is already behind the curve with regard to others given satellite 5G NB-IoT is already being adopted or is in operation and Wyld suggest they will not have commercial silicon unti Q4 2023.

Also in the same way that Wyld are constrained in their operations because they do not operate their own constellation(s) they are now similarly constrained in that they do not have a license for 5G. This may turn out to be a competition issue but, although I have not looked very hard, there does not as yet seem to be any action by the regulators to open up the market in the same way as BT was forced to open up their network to broadband competitors in the UK.

I have little doubt that people like AT&T, Verizon, Starlink and others will be extremely reluctant to let third parties such as Wyld in on their turf. As a result both in terms of access to satellites and access to spectrum Wyld is in a horribly constrained situation. Despite their announcement of a, prospective, 5G NB-IoT solution which has already been implemented and is in operation by others they still need spectrum which might be hoped to materialise from their collaboration with StarLink under SpaceX.

Unfortunately as we have already seen Swarm who have already operated an LEO cluster and LoraWan network ostensibly doing what Wyld are now doing and been bought up by SpaceX. They are now abandoning their Lorawan network, and constellation, in favour of 5G NB-IoT via Starlink. Presumably this is where the money is. The qustion therefore becomes is SpaceX actually willing or inclined to allow Wyld to hitch a ride on their skirts in competition with Swarm, a company they own, or is the collaboration for a lesser goal. As previously speculated access to Swarms now defunct LoraWan constellation.

It is my considered opinion that Wyld is dead in the water. Too little of nothing too late.

This is because...

Mr 100K buyer/seller will be back next Monday and all the buys/sells will be published as sells/buys by the corrupt MMs keeping a lid on the SP as the shorters burn and many wise LTHs will be advised to top up at these low prices by those who have already done so, shame not to. Much will be said about absolutely nothing to do with it and something vague about something to do with it whilst entirely missing the point that everyone else has a left shoe to go with the right one, apart from Wyld.

Someone will tell me I am in their Green Box and InvestorACE, who seriously needs to think about their branding, will tell me to get back in my Cardboard One which, unfortunately, is regularly occupied by The Cat so I suppose I will have to become Homeless. In the mean time the wheels on the Bus will go 'round and 'round as you all travel towards the light at the end of the tunnel proclaiming the wonders of your Bus without doing a simple Internet search and having the ability to interpret the results to come to a conclusion that Buses do not, generally, operate on Railway Tracks.

Of course I could regale you with a bunch of, technical, links to support a thesis but, as we move towards The Idiocracy, you lot will continue on your journey to the wrong end of The Poseidon drinking and spouting copious volumes of Brawndo.

Top Tip. Watch out for the 1 trade.

It is an interesting thought.

SpaceX own Swarm so Swarm is SpaceX.

Swarm are no longer supporting or producing product to support LoraWan

Swarm are or appear to be moving their services to StarLink.

Swarm now have a spare set of LoraWan capable LEO satellites.

Wyld say they have begun to collaborate with SpaceX. However Swarm is SpaceX. Maybe, just maybe, Wyld are in fact being given access to Swarms, now unused or otherwise spare, LEO satellites. It would be a shame to waste them.

That's one of the problems with these nondescript announcements. They may be carefully worded to imply one thing but the actual underlying thing might be slightly or completely different without being legally misleading.

Tullynessle on ADVFN

"Excellent medical news for Merck highlighted at the PatientMetRx® (Talking Medicines) / Twitter (X) website.

It would be interesting to identify the relationship with and role of Talking Medicines in supporting Merck.

Also the Scope and Value of services provided to Merck (if any),noting that for this we don't require detailed financial figures - merely a good understanding of the Service, its Delivery, and design of Compensation criteria.

IMO Talking Medicines is a quality company with first class management and hopefully will be retained pending an exit at full Enterprise Value."

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en-GB&source=hp&biw&bih&q=Merck+site:patientmetrx.com

Your search - Merck site:patientmetrx.com - did not match any documents.

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en-GB&source=hp&biw&bih&q=Merck+site:talkingmedicines.com

Your search - Merck site:talkingmedicines.com - did not match any documents.

No doubt the evil ramping weevil crafts their messaging well and this is typical of their obnoxious craft but the spin, apart from the veiled caveats, is that Talking Medicines *does* have a relationship with Merck but presumably *we* don't know about it because *NDA's*

What sort of pernicious dried up bit of vomit can bring themselves to post such drivel?

Please try to read the full message before throbbing off.

Doesn't really add much meat to the somewhat bare bones does it. He shows the modem,

https://wyldnetworks.com/am102-preorder

This board has been available to them for quite some time and, as far as I am aware, is based on a job lot of IC's they got when they bought out Amiho. Otherwise it appears to use a stock processor and stock Semtech transceiver.

https://www.analog.com/en/products/max32670.html

https://www.semtech.com/products/wireless-rf/lora-connect/sx1262

I can't envisage supply problems for such product and yet he talks about volume production to satisfy pre-orders only coming through on Quarter 3) 2023. Perhaps they do or have had manufacturing issues despite the earlier claims of involvement with a major Indian production house.

Also interesting to note the suggestion that the ICs for 5G NB-IoT only becoming commercially available in Quarter 1) 2024 which, given the agreement with SpaceX is apparently driven by 5G NB-IoT, kind of puts the dampers on progress in that particular area. Otherwise, given someone on ADVFN is babbling on about Telefonica...

https://www.telefonica.com/en/communication-room/press-room/telefonica-to-connect-iot-devices-via-satellite-with-5g-technology/

They already have, or are working towards a solution with Sateliot. From that release,

"This innovative 5G connectivity service via satellite *will not require the use of devices other than those already used in NB-IoT connectivity* and it is expected that agriculture, shipping, wind farms, solar farms and livestock will be the sectors that will benefit the most as they are the ones that need coverage in remote areas. Telefónica Tech and TGS plan to start the first pre-commercial pilots with customers later this year."

They are already using available COTS solutions. An example

https://sequans.com/products/monarch-2-gm02s/

https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/sequans-communications/GM02S/16537992

Of course such a solution would have to be verified as being viable in a Ground to Satellite mode and that is something Telefonica are proving or have proved with Sateliot.

As such the possibility or probability that SpaceX have chosen to collaborate with Wyld on something that is presumably similar is a major deal.

Https://mastodon.neilzone.co.uk/@FOSSingularity@strangeobject.space/110900969667167868

https://www.startpage.com/do/dsearch?query=WiFi+HaLow

This appears to be a non-LoraWan 900MHz long distance WiFi solution. A competitor to LoraWan

https://www.wi-fi.org/discover-wi-fi/wi-fi-certified-halow

https://www.wi-fi.org/beacon/y-zachary-freeman/wi-fi-halow-and-lorawan-how-do-the-technologies-compare

Notice that whilst LoraWan has a much greater range than HaLow HALow has much greater speeds as well as improved range compared to ordinary WiFi.

To add to the mix, and as I have babbled before, WiFi, suffers from Line of Sight problems which HaLow seems to ameliorate but, your big but, is those problems do not exist for satellite communications. Perhaps Still Waiting's dreams about 100% Global Pron might be within sight.

Of course now the frantic babbling rampers amongst you will be frothing at the mouth trying to suggest that this is what

Wyld are in talks about with SpaceX. Who knows but it seems like a fertile line to pursue.

There you go folks. Do I get some Brownie Points for sounding positive?

Here you go mate...

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=wyld+share+price

No need to include your personal tracking cruft.

Another amateur who likes to link everyone else to their Google Tracking history.

https://www.nasdaqomxnordic.com/shares/microsite?Instrument=SSE229074

That's an impressive ramp coming from https://twitter.com/SchmidtUk and https://twitter.com/Capo_Of_AIM who happen to have been ramping Tern over the past few weeks. Must be sitting on heavy losses. On that basis warning bells should be ringing for you especially since the bringer of the, lack of, news is none other than Flava.

Seriously Ladz. If any credence were to be given to this then you would have to assume that the target is not specifically Tern but Tern's holdings in Wyld and, WOW!, look at the share price action over there. I call a nothing.

Whilst I used my minimal skills to demonstrate how most people could generate a fake image without context I don't think it qualifies as a mic drop.

I'll have to assume you do not know what a mic drop is.

Oh. OK... back on the troll.

Andrbea quotes an Instagram message that mentions a post on a Swedish Investment forum, full of other trolling idiots such as yourself. The post includes an unattributed image that "If genuine, it's the most blatant declaration of something that otherwise they've been keeping mum about, up to now."

and mugs such as Andrbea and yourself lap it up.

I use my limited skills to mock up something similar and you go Stockholm Syndrome.

Note to Sweepie3. I think you will find I spend quite a lot, if not the majority, of my time calling out what you might consider to be positive posts for what they are. Unattributed drivel or misplaced ramping fantasy. I will day that it is nice to have lost the Sharebel minute by minute price commentary clan from the board but a few of the false equivalence warriors still remain.

Https://imgur.com/8gdQNRB