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Thx cc2201, SWS have shown Toscafund from 24.5% to 18.7% over past few months and was just querying if they had sold out completely according to Marketscreener

"Tosca/Harwood have private capital vehicles. "

As far as i can see. Tosca hold no Spire. Correct if wrong. https://www.marketscreener.com/quote/stock/SPIRE-HEALTHCARE-GROUP-PL-120972065/company-shareholders/

Monstrous £820k sell after close. Proof that even the big boys get it wrong. Could be a fake trade to spook the market further ofc. But looking good for 140p tomorrow

Shares now 20% cheaper, in theory that should attract more takeover interest, not less.

Retail investors will panic sell or stop losses will be breached. Just how it works. Have they got a buyer lined up ? Probably not. Hence sell off.

Haile i actually bought in average 188p a few weeks ago like a r3t@rd. Just recovering my losses rn.

You just have to look at the way the market views it. Our opinions are irrelevant. Learnt this the hard way too many times, just do the opposite what the average retail investor thinks usually goes. Moltbot also helps substancially

This will obviously anger some, but i am here to make money ...the answer to yr question is around 157 to 158.5p. At 3-4x leverage. Had some help with Molt obv. Did 3 TPs last hour though.set stop at 153p. U manage to short some too?

Deepjoy, it's a free country. You can do what you want to alleviate yr emotional losses

Deepjoy, I recommend you use the filter button.

Moltbot is complex and needs fine tuning but its strike rate is high. I could actually get it to write entire posts on here automatically to be fair.

I am sure yr angry mood will lighten when the pump comes next week or werk after. People's emotions are affected by share price movements afterall.

Only foolhardy people would listen to someone like you using leveraged shorts and hedges.

No mate. I am using Moltbot.

Sorry mate, i hedged accordingly after the dumb 230p offer rejection. You need to think less emotionally and see this more as a money making exercise, i care not for any stock and attachment unlike most here

Fundamentals? The market nor i care for. I am completely balanced and hedged accordingly with certain stop losses. 100p i win. 250p takeover i win. Anything inbetween ...meh

The 20 hospitals were valued at £1.1bn in 2018 fyi. Since then everything has appreciated 40% + especially outside London. Spire hold very few London hospitals, so yr prob looking at total property value of £1.7-1.9 bn incl clinics. The debt is self is managable at £20m a year just on interest.

But this is irrelevant as the major shareholders will reject any offer under 300p. It's actually not the BOD's fault but we gotta blame someone. However, the longer this protracts, the share price will just keep dwindling down a slow painful death. Seen it so many times guys. Get yr losses back shorting this and hedge sensibly.

My advise is, don't wait for this to get taken over. It could be another 9 years wait and way below current prices. If you short just use 2x leverage moreso above 180p. BOD and Ceo have not demonstrated any capability whatsoever

Zero share price theory?

Zero price theory was an exaggeration. But i am sure u get the gist.

Sham, this has been going on 9 years. Logic says they would work together to force out the current bod to extract max value. Lol. This doesn't necessarily work out well for retail shareholders though. All their hospitals are located in affluent areas. They should no probs selling off back to NHS , circle or even Cleveland who spanked £1bn on one hospital in central London .

To appoint their own ppl on. Pretty common

ShamI89, Bod can also be forced out by major shareholders which is an almost certainty

Because they know the true value and are the majority shareholders. PE = vultures. Shareholders come last. They can easy do a 200p bid and get accepted and sell off one hospital at a time for an accumulated 400p a share equivalent.

Lower dca on their higher buy.