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Accumulation of shares means there are fewer shares available. At this point, plain old simple supply and demand should be overriding sentiment.

It’s not? This is odd

Not withstanding a considerable drop in Broadband numbers. Something BT expects to reach 400,000 by end of year?

I’m surprised by that number.

Scally I’ve never seen a street cabinet charging an EV either, so they need to do a bit of work, this might include a separate charger on the kerb.

If BT are getting into the EV charging business I’d like to see them doing a deal with network rail, can’t be difficult for them to provide power tails from their live rail !!!!

At last BT looking for new revenue streams. I suggested this on one of their suggestion boxes would help solve charging for those without driveways !!!

EV charging from cabinets etc. old switch sites would work well too

https://newsroom.bt.com/bt-group-to-launch-electric-vehicle-charging-pilots/

Fleccy, I’d say it definitely has significance, but I know not what that is.

I don’t like the idea of book sales seem to bypass a reaction of the share price? It seems to make a mockery of the market?

Hey blue Pete. I was thinking share price should respond to supply and demand + or - sentiment

When I think about it, supply and demand should overcome sentiment. So for example with BT.

If sentiment is negative why or how would there be a shortage of shares? If sentiment is poor, why have various people been securing billions of pounds worth……?

I surmise that at some point, regardless of sentiment, the fact so many have bee bought and there are so few in the market, supply and demand should be trumping negative sentiment ? With 71% of shares out of circulation, supply and demand should be making potential buyers think there is value?

If any of those thoughts are right? Why isn’t BT share price climbing ?

Share prices and movements should follow the basic rules of supply and demand. Yes sentiment plays a part, but why would negative sentiment lead to fewer shares available?. So supply & demand should, kind of be dominant. BT has a very large amount of shares out of the trading environment, so where are the supply and demand pressures?

This I don’t fully understand (conspiracy theories apart)

Could his frustration and sudden exit be linked to

Unions forced a little u turn

999 investigation

I quite liked his get and do something, I’m yet to be fully convinced about what’s being done?

NDN - we both know you don’t understand the dark web, Rod does though.

Did you see that helpful link I added for Fleccy? Let me know what you think

& How many areas was that alt net doing new build, poles versus ducts & of course resident complaints always helpful.

Do you have any views worth posting about Phillips tenure?

Hey Ian, no, I’m just trying to improve my knowledge by learning from the experts on this site.

I think it’s a quiet day for BT. What do you want to discuss.

What are your views on mr Jansen and the job he has done for business and your investment.

Fleccy - to help you

try Wikipedia search device fingerprinting

See “sources of identifying information”

It will help you. You will still be right of course, but it will help you. If you want technical descriptions befitting your expertise I have links for those too

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Device_fingerprint

Blue Pete, never more true words spoken. When you buy a new device that MAC address is linked with your address / credit card / email & what ever other details you hand over at the time (no need to highlight PAYG Fleccy).

Even second hand every little interaction online, allows for personal details to be updated, amazon have up to date details to deliver parcels, that would be the perfect place to link name address email to the device

I went to hackers demonstration once and couldn’t believe how quickly this stuff can be put together, they share huge resources of random data harvested from various sources. I would guess you could get same demo online.

It’s why I would caution anyone who fancies bragging about their circumstances or grand standing about their achievements in a public space.

Listening / reading this is optional.

Can’t believe I’m wasting my time answering you Fleccy. Honestly I’m getting embarrassed for you

a) GPS tracks location, we are discussing tracking activity across the inter-web & how this means you are not anonymous.

I’ve already told you. Using your MAC address to track your activity / identity is nothing to do with layer 2/3 routing. I really think you should get your head round that harvesting a MAC or other personal details is about identifying you / your device and it’s activity nothing to do with switches or routers who won’t even see it in the payload.

I’ve already given you an example, Apple preventer apps from accessing MAC address because companies were using it to identify users and track their usage

I’ve given you other details. Bank, Netflix, PayPal etc all recognise your device, regardless of network. one way of doing this is by requesting your MAC address

Older voip systems need a unique identifier for you. In one direction it’s a SIP address, some opt to use your MAC send via the application layer.

A MAC address can identify the device purchase, used across multiple sites it csn be harvested and cross referenced, linked to other personal details, as can cookies as can other sources.

Point being, there’s no such thing as anonymity. & applications can harvest and pass on personal data including your hosting io address and MAC. Nothing to do with routing, nothing to do with any network layer, but as data exchanged between applications, bypassing any encryption or any attempt to hide your network details.

In some cases these apps don’t need to read this detail from your equipments OS, in some instances it’s a necessary part of the app.

It’s not difficult is it?

Hello NDN. Of course I wouldn’t because that would be sharing personal details over a very public thingy.

Very silly after kindly asking others to think about their own safety, whilst posting on a very public domain.

For example, I could make a very good, educated guess where you live, after you posted that alt net company who left unused cables tied up on posts where you live.

Same as Fleccy, this board is a world of info about him, how much money he has, shares he invests in a description of his career, military service, much much more & if that picture was him, plain silly.

If you were to apply yourself, you should be able to determine whether my simplified description is correct or not. That should help you work out my technical understanding or not. I really don’t care either way.

I’ve left out cookies and other options to track people across the inter-web & then of course, what if there was an open source, operating system, maybe called android, there would be not limits, tv’s, cameras IOT to harvest info from

Hope that’s helpful.

Fleccy, I have no idea why I’m answering you, because it’s obvious you don’t understand, as

Much as you pretend you do.

I have some good news for you, Apple stopped applications requesting you MAC address from IOS 11. I doubt that’s the case with other devices.

Makes you wonder why they did that according to your work view here is the reason why

A MAC address is a string that is unique for every computer device. iOS 11 does absolutely not allow apps to read these MAC addresses. We were told by Apple engineers that this is a privacy feature of iOS 11 because some companies misused the unique MAC address to track users.

I think I was trying to explain “it’s not used for routing”. So the idea of keeping it in layer 2/3 for addressing is irrelevant.

I’m not sure I can word this any easier (it must be because you have already proven I don’t know what I’m talking about)

If an application can read your MAC address, it can be requested by the other end application. & be transported across a network, not for routing but part of the IP packet payload.

Because this information exchange is application to application (layer 5,6,7). It doesn’t matter how complex the encryption used, the communication at layer 5,6,7 is usually in plain language.

Therefore regardless of vpn, ip address hiding or anything else, an application layer is capable of requesting and receiving your personal details, what ever your can be harvested from your device.

Of course your operating system should try to prevent Personal details being accessed, but who really reads terms and conditions ?

I hope that helps Fleccy, in your never ending quest got knowledge?

Fleccy I almost can’t believe I’m answering you, because I already know how pointless it is & you will cling to the idea you know best. Obviously I assume you didn’t really post a picture of yourself? (Don’t answer that either)

Yes I did mean vpn, but you might ask yourself where a vlan gets an ip address from when it needs to break out & how similar that might be. (I already know it’s pointless)

If you think later 2 or 3 addresses stay in layer 2 or 3 (they are not used for routing outside layer 3 ) or that hiding behind a proxy keeps you safe. How do you think your bank continues to recognise your device when you use your banking application ? (Please don’t answer), I already know the choices they have to identify you).

Hey Blue Pete, thanks for being the voice of reason. I wish I was able to be halfway as decent as you often are.

Of course you are right, the point you make is a good one.

I have to say, for me, there are views & values which automatically preclude any chance of decency in a person.

Unlike you, I can hold those views, because I struggle to be nice or decent myself in many ways.

Coronation - Yes I would now jump for a reasonable offer. If it covered my average buy price, with something more than 15% profit I would consider. 20% would likely take it. 40% I would definitely take it, no doubt.

Blue Pete, surely It’s their money, their choice. Honestly other peoples investment strategy has got to be their business.

If you’re not careful fleecy is going to post another ridiculous (cringe worthy) picture of himself trying to convince interested parties he’s immortal & has all the time in the world.

We already know he’s wrong about almost everything, you’re arguing with a die hard leave voter for cricky’s sake.

Honestly, people shouldn’t be disclosing these kind of details about personal wealth / details on here, it’s madness, it’s a public board, you can access without a password or account !!!!

Fleecy will say it can’t be linked to him & his real world details, but he’s wrong about that too. Anonymous accounts is not anonymity & using a vlan doesn’t stop identity sharing between applications (layer 5) which by their nature overcome all encryption and all network routing (layer 2/3) precautions. Simple cookies will do this job & it gets far more sophisticated from there.

You guys won’t listen, because you think you know better, but I would advise caution as one or two of you are making themselves worth while targets.

Blue Pete - best mantra I know is

Revenue is vanity

Profit is necessity

Cash is reality

It’s a great mantra, but the truth is, less coming in, makes profit harder & cash difficult to come by.