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Have to agree. Sweepie, MMs couldn't give a toss what the price is as long as people are buying and selling. That's what they exist to encourage, which is why they're called 'market makers'. Their dosh comes off the spread. Some might hold shares for a short while prior to a price rise but for the rise to happen, punters like you need to buy. I do get tired of constant harping on about 'MMs'. Tern's a tiddler. It's people trading that drives the price. On the ASX you can see people's bids appear. I bought and sold on the asx and each time, on Hot Copper's market depth indicator (which doesn't seem to be there any more) I saw my trade pop up in the listings... exactly by quantity. What I don't get is why on the AIM, the actual value of punters bids and offers get obscured by MM round numbers. Perhaps it's about quantities.

Thousands were sold a few days ago. That lot have to be soaked up.

Afraid I never visit ADVFN as it's full of nonsense. And whilst it's good, and appreciated, that you post news, hearing that there might be news from somewhere else is not in itself news.

Yes there's ramping. But it's so transparent as to be laughable.

You don't 'get people to buy'. You build the company until it represents an advantage to larger companies to buy it, and they approach you. That's a long process.

Alsop Louie, SANA and the Mayo Clinic would beg to differ with you.

Yes it's your opinion. So don't state it as fact.

How can you call it BS with such certainty when you're not party to anything that's going on in the background? The arrogance is breath taking. Suggest it might be BS if you like, with reasoning to support your case. Your uninformed opinion or the CEO who's involved in such negotiations? I know who I opt to believe if I have to believe anyone.

What did irritate the hell out of me was his repeated insistence on NAV as a measure of worth. By all means state this, but also point out that such companies sell for many multiples of their NAV. And that's the value proposition here.

It's on Vox btw. About half way in.

I don't think you should assume that there's a risk of 'being stitched up', at least not intentionally. Those are strong words and are one school of thought only. Personally if only the third item in your list were formalised, I'd be happy. Although I will remain invested even if it isn't, just not nearly as extensively. I am in the TAG.

lithium production

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-tesla-batteryday-lithium/teslas-nevada-lithium-plan-faces-stark-obstacles-on-path-to-production-idUSKCN26E3G1

It might be before xmas. It might be this week. It might be next year. But whenever it, if you're out when the morning RNS arrives - and it might even involved suspending trading - you will mostly miss the boat as the price will gap up hugely. That's the point of being in. Although I admit that for us long termers, it's proved to be a frustrating wait. But things are coming together for investees now. So not much longer I suspect.

..what's it going to take to get this moving back up? An exit? Really? Anticipation of an exit, which is inevitable and could happen at any time, isn't enough?

https://twitter.com/CzechLithium/status/1308569671709331456?s=20

Interesting but that's a sponsored article. Be interesting to know if it prompts any enquiries. But yes, it does suggest that Wyld's covid solution is ready to rock and roll. Also interesting to see if there's any takeup for sports stadia.

And it's back. I think LSE run their site on 1999 dx486 PCs.

I replied to this 20 minutes ago. It appeared, then disappeared. This site sometimes...

I think our ownership of Push is nominal at 1%, bought just so tern could register as an investment company at the start.

Tiny. I think 1%. It was bought just so Tern could register themselves as an investment company.

So, value gravitates to the stated NAV and the actual price for which investees will sell is completely ignored. Bright bunch are AIM investors aren't they?

No no, it's fact. I'm a scientist. I only deal in facts that are proven by evidence. That's what science is.

But enough. No ill feeling. Go your own way. But (imo) you'd do yourself a favour by taking a more positive approach to this share. It's flawed of course. All investments are. And there's risk...it's a small company on the AIM. And I'd never advise putting all one's eggs in this basket any more than I would for any other. But it's worth a punt because the simple truth is that the tech startups that Tern are invested in are doing well. And Tern's mcap is so modest that the share price cannot help but rise upon an exit. If you research DA especially, it seems to me to be blindingly obvious that it will sell for considerably more than Tern's current entire mcap. Which is why, irksome as the low share price is, it doesn't actually matter because the company will suddenly acquire substantial cash one day - could be tomorrow or next year - and that's where the value will come from. Assuming no black swan events.

But if you disagree, you're always free to leave and devote your attention to another share in which you have more confidence. Why spend time on here whinging? Unless you're shorting.. in which case may I suggest that your technique is flawed? You're supposed to ramp it at the bottom of the range and disparage it at the top. Not disparage it at the bottom... and Tern has been floating between 8 and 12p for ages. If I were you I'd start ramping it up to 11 or 12, then lay into it. But no skin off my nose either way.

Oh I ignore the rampers and boiler room gang too, and the derampers and shorters and permanent cynics like you. I have spoken to the person you mention on a number of occasions. One thing you may forget and that is that private conversations take place off these boards , to which you're not party.

But heyho... never mind. You go your way and I'll go mine. Just try not to make assumptions based upon supposition and declare them on here as fact. By all means declare them as your opinion, because that's what they are.

You really ought to do your research if you're going to make definitive statements rather than merely say what you believe. Otherwise you risk making a fool of yourself.