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They do that with ALL of their products, buy one, get another half price.

At least this board is free from the disgusting comments aimed at factual posters on advn board. It just shows what desperate folks will stoop to. It was comical, but the comedy gets darker. Human behaviour at its worst.
WRN is having its bones picked over by Begbies, all at a cost which will absorb any remaining cash.
Whet has no available investment funds, the one it has made is performing quite badly on the Sixt exchange, Trades on Britdaq few and far between.

That's the reality, fully expect that the gang mentality will get this post removed

Sympathies to you and yours Pumpky.
All the best

You can view things in a paranoid way, or in a business way, that's entirely up to you. Provexis raised funds to put million in the coffers, and holders backed (by the way this was LONG after SM sold). Part of the proposal when offering the shares was that it was company policy to grow by acquisition. It is feasible that, at that stage, DSM were advising that revenues would flow freely enough to allow both arms of the business to grow unfettered. It did not happen. DSM appear to have banged on many doors, and entered discussions with many companies, and began projects to develop branded products for launch in to the market. That their success has been limited is a surprise to all who have watched. They are a huge company, they attend all major sales events worldwide, they instigated medical advocacy, they produced promo videos, they featured Fruitflow extremely highly amongst their wide product rage, they continue to refer to Fruitflow in the warmest terms.

So the cash didn't flow as anticipated, the other arm of the business saw an opportunity to become a global brand, but needed insti investors who weren't focussed on Fruitflow. Only way to resolve that was to separate the entities.

And if the demerger had not happened, leaving SiS with insufficient capital to progress its action plan, then both would have lost out. Initially, Science in Sport was held back by Provexis holders selling their share entitlements. I don't believe there are many at all who didn't sell the one share to buy more of the other, which was entirely their own decision.
SiS needed many millions, Provexis would have held it back because revenues were not generated at the speed that all hoped for. DSM< know why that didn't happen, why they didn't deliver on their part of the bargain. From what we could see, it wasn't for the want of trying.

Where the poster who childishly refers to me as the previous poster is "not correct" is that SM used the word once, meaning that having EFSA approval would set Fruitflow apart from other health claims. It did, it achieved the very first EFSA approval. But, rather than other products with no EFSA approval being compromised, and losing their markets, they responded by changing their marketing, particularly in the case of yoghurts.
Every one of us have to see that getting that approval, for the wording allowed, wasn't a powerful enough message to persuade big brands to rush Fruitflow to market. Only DSM could explain why, but they won't.
Now, with more patents, and more health claims, different wording, appealing to a broader sector, are available.
DSM will again not tell us if the new developments of the IP have rung the bell, no matter how much we long for it. WE have to base our own decisions on what we know.

It did demonstrate something though.
Just my own theory.

Not correct.
When SM used the word transformational, he was referring specifically to getting EFSA approval. At the time, much publicity was claiming that products which had no approval would be more or less banned from claiming health benefits. As with all things EC, having EFSA meant diddly.

Since then, with patents added for several more health benefits, the possibilities are enhanced, not diminished.
Turning possibilities in to certainties is what is needed.
DSM believe that is achievable.

You haven't explained how.
They are carrying out their role that has been defined since 2010

An alternative may be that you paid no attention to the mcap at the time, didn't consider exec, or any other, cost, and didn't know, or care, when revenues would become substantial. Instead, just ploughed on the basis of nothing other than chat board enthusiasm at the time.

A question for anyone?
When you decided to invest your money in stock market traded shares, did the pay of executives affect your decision in any way?

My view is that, given the obvious very strong opposition to it, then it should have deterred many from buying. I understand that Post Office Savings manager pay is quite modest

That would be a criticism of DSM then, which is valid, but it appears that they are putting a lot of effort in to marketing Fruitflow, it hasn't been shuffled off in to a backwater in their promotional effort. I'd love to know, we all would, who they have on the potentials list, what stage they are at, and when they intend to launch. Since 2010 I've always recognised that it isn't going to be that way. Were are in their hands, they do work in confidential contracts, they report that there are ongoing projects. Face value, they are doing their job, not enough to Provexis' benefit.
Yet.

This what they say is their task.

"The key strategy of Provexis going forward will be to fulfil its responsibilities under the Alliance Agreement, such as protecting the intellectual property of Fruitflow and assisting DSM with scientific work required to further commercialise Fruitflow, whilst also managing the relationship with DSM. "

Which part do you think they are not "managing very good" ?

Not really research.
Better memory perhaps

The key strategy of Provexis going forward will be to fulfil its responsibilities under the Alliance Agreement, such as protecting the intellectual property of Fruitflow and assisting DSM with scientific work required to further commercialise Fruitflow, whilst also managing the relationship with DSM. The Board believe that these obligations can be met with a very small team comprising two part-time executives, together with two non-executive Directors to oversee strategy and governance matters

What an excellent, enthusiastic report.
Big thanks to all at The Mission.
Onwards and, hopefully, upwards to reflect the continued success of this well run company.

Interesting to speculate on the latest daydream posted on the backwaters channel.
My opinion. Only one HNWI has a notifiable holding, therefore safe to assume that PI's represent the majority of shares held. If a proposal to take Provexis private was tabled, the offer would need to be attractive to that group.
At the moment, there are a few vocals with high enough averages to suffer if that happened.

I think Bella (Farmgal's) observation that DB and IF are astonished that the breakthrough has taken so long rings true. Not one of us knew, not even them. DSM's attitude remains firmly positive (yeah yeah Pumpky, not feasible).
Therefore the offer he anticipates would need to reflect that portrayed optimism by our operational partner

My own personal view, aint going to happen.

I suppose, strictly, the answer would have to be " We will inform the market"
I'm sure all can see the point, if an answer given could be construed to give the prospects of the company a more positive outlook, or the converse. Given the tech we all have, it would be possible to adjust shareholdings pretty much instantly. If it were allowed, AGM's would be packed to the rafters, instead they are staid and stuffy affairs appealing only to the busybody types

Market sensitive is the key wording.
Anything which attendees could use to their advantage whilst the rest of the shareholders, indeed the whole market, remains uninformed.
In other words, questions are answered only in the most general terms, using information already in the public domain.

Still there on his grassy knoll.
The AGM matters to him, and a very small number of others.
Vast majority who don't go know that AGM's a technical necessity, nothing new could, or would, be divulged, that's the law.
I know he doesn't like that, perhaps he could get up a petition to the Attorney General.

It was a "new" news item on the Beeb though Bern. The medical opinion of aspirin has been slowly changing, the US being the main market to come out strongly against it.
Awareness. Takes so long without major promotion, and in the age of a plethora of media channels, reaching everyone is nigh on impossible.
I couldn't fathom the logic of thinking that this may damage Fruitflow either, perhaps the writer was watching Dragon's Den at the time. Each to their own.