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Know what you're saying, but, we didn't begin at zero, and we're not sure if every sequential number is an order. But the interval numbers continue to grow.

Although I took part in the PrimaryBid placing, I wouldn't mind adding a few more, and my thinking was along similar lines, that we may see dip a little below. As we see a fair few versions in the mainland Europe zone, I guess there has been revenue growth there. USA has products on the market, with no news on success or otherwise. China has had some Fruitflow product before, but the extra regulatory work of By Health can only be aimed to achieve higher market penetration. The national athletics team cornering early production may frustrate a bit, but product reinforcement by sports stars is a powerful marketing tool. As you say, bottom line is where the most powerful influences are, revenue growth is vital, crossing the breakeven line will perhaps be affected by how much they plan to spend expanding Fruitflow+Omega3, especially if that were to involve attempts to break in to mainstream retail.

Why do you attack the opinions of others? You made your own opinion clear over many years on the other site, and have been proven wrong in your prediction of closure for years now. Others have more forward looking opinions, surely it is fair to allow them to express them? At least you're not allowed the addition of dozens of childish emoticons on this site, thanks LSSE

Do you actually know the proven health benefit? Do you know when Fruitflow + Omega3 was launched? All your TI is based on zero knowledge, and so makes you look a goofy keyboard abuser.

Ever considered what Omega3 first appeared in? Excited isn't a word I'd use, but every single one furthers education, which I think is vital.

I find that view quite puzzling Bern. Niche products abound these days, because niche sports have their own supply industry. Back in your day, Roy of The Rovers may have scored the winning goal after a fish and chip lunch, but that was back then, and of course fictional. Welcome to them I say. If nothing else, they give lie to the of quoted " oooh nobody knows about Fruitflow" Of course, all are correct how good it would be if Fruitflow went mainstream in top branded products. The obvious boost to both image and revenues would be superb, although the marketing contribution could dip revenues short term IMHO, to the chagrin of the Fruitflomoaners.

I concur that you have no idea, because your comment displays a complete lack of knowledge of what has been to collaboration entered in to between the companies. Sirco tasted odd. Those of us that bought it as the only source of Fruitflow became used to the taste, but the honest truth is that a high sugar juice drink was not the direction that Fruitflow took. And that direction began almost as soon as the alliance with DSM began. DSM sell to industry, globally. Fact. The currently available Fruitflow products are dietary supplements. Easier to ingest, combined with a drink to the individual's own taste. A superior format. Are there Fruitflow capsules on the shelves of retailers, apart from online? Read the most recent comments by Provexis, and decide. The UK is a tiny proportion of a global market, therefore I see the obsession of a few with just the UK as myopic.

If you haven't seen it, that's through your own lack of interest. It is all there, and countless links to it have been provided over the years. They sell to industry, so you are not going to see a front page banner on the Star (a guess) You mention blinkered folks, but how willing are you to look beyond you continual agenda of denial of progress. I know, like the pretentious ones on 'thother site, what you wanted and expected was an immediate launch by a multinational and every health service to make it compulsory. The irony is that you accuse others of being the dreamers. Realistically, Fruitflow has continued to gain market presence, revenues have grown period by period, and, if the percentage gains continue at a reasonable rate, the all important base line will be crossed. Until then, silly comments by those with zero information will continue. Chinese grocery stores indeed, just how wide of the mark can a poster be without blushing at his own naivety?

Supported by DSM's marketing to the nutraceutical industry, Fruitflow has always had a premium profile. It has a clinically proven health claim, it was the recipient of the very first EFSA approved health claim, and GRAS approval in USA. Such differentiators can only mark Fruitflow out from others.

If that were the case, no luxury brand would survive. But they do, and thrive. Such a simplistic thought process to marketing is at odds with the reality.

The population of China is some 1.3 billion. Those on restricted incomes are not the target market. Do you buy the cheapest everything?

A failure to grasp what has happened to the consumer market in China in recent times just displays a general ignorance. The Chinese market is vast, and multi layered, but the key economic fact is that the middle classes, those with incomes and aspirations that match, or exceed, western norms, are now much greater in number than the entire consumer population of Europe. They actively seek western brands, and demand authenticity, and are prepared to pay for it. They have already invested heavily in Fruitflow. A number of businessmen have been the key support which has seen the sp rise over the past year, having been behind the providers of placing funds at .45 and .50.

We saw when the own brand Fruitflow + Omega3 was launched that there was a marketing contribution. If that was mirrored during all the other launches, it may explain why revenues lagged behind the expansion of brands. That's just a deduction, because the Alliance Agreement doesn't allow specific financials to be quoted. So, By Health is potentially the biggest brand to date, their activity may or may not have some impact on revenues depending on when their marketing spend began. Also, the cost of widening the health claim to include blood pressure regulation will have some bearing. Provided market exposure continues to expand, these factors are just short term hurdles. AGM, non event. IMHO

An interesting comparison between two posters there. Not sure I can get my head around those percentages though. Looks like it's saying " I invested a grand here, now I'm six grand down" I deliberately missed out the "grr"

Well of course your guru didn't invent a legal term, dohh. But he certainly introduced it in current usage. Yes fonters you have a right to post here, as I have on WRN board. I must have struck a raw nerve for two of you to come revenge posting, but I believe I stated the truth. I'm no kind of expert, just an ordinary PI. Provexis has a current market cap decided by those who want to buy and those who want to sell. Presumably the former know a great deal more about the global development of Fruitflow than you do. Those who bought just over a year ago, encouraged by director buys and a funding group supporting a placing, would be some 60% up. :-)

Incredibly uninformed posts by fonters. The irony is that this disciple of the guy who coined the term "tortious interference" has no morals about engaging in that himself. If I felt that his foolish words would make a scrap of difference, I'd copy the company in on what are clearly actionable posts. And all because I dare to make a few comments on his own beloved board. China is simply the biggest current potential market, with the collaboration between Provexis and By Health as evidence of the growth plans. The number of European products continues to grow across a very diverse range of offerings. Research and studies around the health benefits of Fruitflow are by no means restricted to the company. DSM market Fruitflow to the whole world, Fact.

Yes, that's 100% accurate pickledonion. However, any poster has a right to make comment on these boards. As I've said a few times already, I don't believe that a single word on this site has any impact whatsoever. The people who have been behind the placings will be the ones in control of the sp going forwards IMHO. Yesterday we saw a £14.85k buy at 10% over the placing price. Whoever that was is highly unlikely to be influenced by a keyboard abuser with a major chip on his shoulder. If those investors have appetite for more shares, they are not going to rush in, rather seek to add with as little fuss as possible, for obvious reasons. The next update will provide the next measuring point.

Spread reduced that's all it was. This sort of silly post is unwelcome. Thought we'd lost all of the "willing it to fail" brigade. Seems not.

Prelims are just an accounting exercise, but there is comment in the fundraising RNS's that suggest good news to come soon. Product launches in China perhaps. Unedifying nastiness expressed on the other site. Reflects badly on the usual suspects.

I occurred to me, whilst reading the views on the other site, that Multiple Marketing will have had some experience of launching in a bigger way through the introduction of Sirco in to the Austria/Germany market. If that has given them the confidence to up their game with a UK launch of the new chilled shots, then good on them. The delay may be in part caused by what seems to me a controlled step up in production of Fruitflow. DSM were never going to produce way ahead of time, a bioactive ingredient must be time governed. It is only one product, in one market, I doubt that it would persuade consumers of Fruitflow Plus to switch back, so it has to create all new demand. Undoubtedly there would be a contribution from the Alliance partners towards launch expenses, so may have a negative short term effect on revenues When it comes, it is just one more small step. IMHO