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Vaneck REMX ETF's position in BMN dropped by 186,819 shares (price 23.521p) on wednesday - this was reported by Vaneck yesterday but the actual transition happened on Wednesday at 8:02:55, two minutes before the flash short of that day really got going.

Those who might consider themselves, cynical, or perhaps just well informed, might consider such close timing to be less than coincidental.

What is also quite strange is that this trade was apparently reversed with a -186,819 report yesterday.

So did this trade happen or did it not ?

If it did not happen then why have Vaneck misinformed their fundholders?

If it did happen then when are we going to get confirmation of the correctly reported transaction ?

Uksteveg - this is a very short term situation which will be over before christmas. What it will do though is prevent any other Vanadium projects from getting the funds to even conduct feasibility studies. In the meantime we will be more than doubling our production capacity.

The real problem is that even this will not be enough if VRFBs are even only marginally successful.

Pat- the only way to deal with that behaviour is firstly to understand what goes on and then to actually participate in the market instead of simply sitting on your shares and getting annoyed. This means buying shares when they are deliberately suppressing the price, like now, and unless you have a steady stream of savings that you wish to invest, conversely selling shares for cash when they are trying to spike new buyers. This will counter the attempts by Market Makers to play short against the stock.

James - even the MMs appreciate that it is not in their interests to put off new buyers forever, after all they are the people that they get to fork out the spondulicks

FAR - ahh yes , 1 trade this week.

Endion - exactly - how many trades did they have there today, this week ?

your choice goblesmythe, good luck elsewhere on a less well researched stock.

James - it will happen but it will happen when it is in the interest of the Market Makers to make it happen not before.

This means that they need to have built a stock of cheap shares to flog on and they need to get a wave of new buyers prepared to buy into the new news. When AIM is populated by many who simply wet themselves when the get a 10% rise on a stock that has had 100 trades in the last 3 months the only question is - is there enough intelligent money around on AIM for this to happen, or is now the time to tell AIM that we've outgrown it ?

The shorting we have seen in the last 2 days is not that different to that which was observed on the 15th and 16th of April this year (only 6 months ago) and again not that different to the shorting that took place on the 18th of August 2017. It is how the game is played and until PIs understand those games they are accepting to play with loaded dice.

If you really wish to understand the game you only have to spend 90 seconds watching this:- https://www.thebushveldperspective.com/slides/slide/bushveld-minerals-in-a-minute-50

I for one am more than prepared to wait until fair value is achieved. With the greatest of respect to those that seem to have got itchy feet 7 days before we become the controller of half of the world's primary Vanadium processing plants outside of China if you don't understand this now you never will.

Claymore - with respect much of that is to help bring the Vanchem Vanadium processing plant back online so that it can process as much ore as possible from their Mokopane Iron and Vanadium deposit. I suspect that there will not be any surplus capacity to process ore from anyone else so don't get your hopes up.

Vauch there’s a lot more space to expand BE at ELIDZ

nice update ninjamagic - it's all really coming together, whilst other Vanadium projects are struggling to even find the cash to get feasibility studies done.

Daisydog - I suspect that they may not as most BBs are full of low grade john come lately rubbish

well well well

No so it might be less.

So gambling something like $250,000 to make $1000 - at the risk that an opportunely timed RNS lands whilst you're deep into your short sounds like a very risky way to go about making money.

... well you know, purely for idle interest of course and not part of a rigorous and forensically detailed programme of evidence gathering.

By 8:16:05 I make a excess of 913K Sells over the first 45 trades of the day (averaging one every 20 seconds or so) - the average sell price over this period was 22.966p . At that point Buying outweighed Selling and the nett deficit in trades (more Sells than Buys) started to reduce.

By 9:01:55 a strong series of Buys returned the nett trade position to neutrality. The average Buy price over the first hour of trading was 22.83p - so in principle someone may have made 0.1p on c. 900,000 shares. That is 900 pounds - for what risk ?

will be reversed at the end of the day

dubmaskullanga - a deficit is not a debt