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Can I ask the poster who said “you haven’t shorted it you’ve bet on a CFD.....” if he’s seen the film The Big Short?
Did those people “short” stocks and pick up millions of worthless shares (as the funds had collapsed) or did they win massively on an...ehm spread bet against market makers that housing markets would collapse?
Seems that reading a couple of Warren Buffer books isn’t teaching you enough
Lolz
Why is creating wealth on the capitulation of others or making profit off bubbles and companies who have intrinsically little value (shorting) immoral?
If you want to talk about morality ask yourself where RR creates 25% of its revenue and ask yourself of fighter jets dropping bombs on innocent women & children is immoral or not
Immoral lol
New world order pmsl
The NWO ahahaha I thought coming here I’d get serious debate now all I’m hearing is the NWO ahahaha
Nothing to do with only charging your consumer when they use your product power-by-the-hour contracts. Nah it was the new world order with the great reset
Nothing to do with contracts that did not mitigate against pandemics that scientists and politicians have been warning us of increased risk of, for decades
New world order ahahahaha haha Jesus wept
Any current or ex RR employees who’ve been buying company shares through a share save scheme with any sense would’ve opened an account with a broker and shorted the stock as a hedge against their savings in March/April
If you’d read my previous posts you’d know I only trade US stocks due to having real-time fundamental analysis and only decided to short RR. due to its power by the hour business model, commercial/civil being 50% of its turnover and long range flights at around 80% reduced capacity than this time last year
The RR share price was falling before this pandemic
I’ve asked before but I’ll ask again. Point out a reason why the SP should go up
Because it’s cheap lol it’s “underweight” because it’s RR and it’s sooo great lol because you read an analyst say so lol
Or you just ex/current employees who bought via sharesave and can’t take the fact that years of savings are wiped out and you’ll say anything or cling onto any sort of news that lines up with your obvious confirmation bias
Don’t trade stocks if you don’t know what you’re doing
Go to William Hill
But but but Warren Buffet said.... lol Warren Buffet wouldn’t touch RR. stock with a ****ty stick lol
Causeway Capital Management sound out these three stocks as undervalued and good bets on a decent return in a post pandemic recovery
Alaska Air Group
Ryanair Holdings
Air Canada
Their silence on RR. deafening lol
Create new account? Hmm
Can anyone give me a fundamental reason or point out some technical analysis from its price/action/volume to explain why I shouldn’t be short?
Anything other than “it’s RR and we’re British and as long as we keep a stiff upper lip and do nothing things will be fine”
Seriously. Anything. Show me anything. I’ll consider closing my shorts and going long
All the folk long on RR. because it’s cheap or “underweight” have any of you asked yourselves why it’s cheap and why it’s one of the few stocks traded in the FTSE or S&P which hasn’t recovered at least some of its value since the covid crash?
I don’t usually trade FTSE shares as there is no fundamental analysis published in real time for non US stocks (TICK,Arms Index, Volatility, Put Call Ratio etc) and for me trading without these tools is like playing roulette
I’m only hanging around shorting RR. for a reason
The one given there about how it’s SP has not recovered. I asked myself why
From experience working there I know implementing change and cuts isn’t easy, or quick, and that they’d only recently restructured in recent years to clear waste. They may have saved £330-350m already but in manufacturing & engineering low hanging fruit will be picked first, that saving could be made globally by having a comms meeting and basically saying “we’re in trouble, everyone needs to get the finger out”
Additional savings won’t be as easy
And from my time working for an airframer I know the power by the hour business model very well. Let’s just say oh dear, the board at RR must have more emotional investment in a vaccine than AstraZeneca or Oxford uni scientists
In the short term, unless a severe uptick in wide body/long range flights the outlook for RR. is very bleak
Usually the market sees past that, it’s a forward looking thing and prices the known and expected in
Looking at a RR. daily chart it doesn’t seem to be pricing it in here
So I’ll continue to look for opportunities to short
All these gurus talking about Warren Buffet
Do they know that
It’s not only him who places bets on behalf of Berkshire Hathaway
I’m recent years he’s been known to be off his game, he’s no spring chicken
And if you’re all such avid followers of the man why are you buying RR. stock? Lol
Why aren’t you betting on some gold ETF and top Japanese industrials or the Nikkei250?
Can’t follow the guy that much
It’s so easy to talk like Warren Buffet after a bit of google or reading his books
Personally I prefer to take a trade whether that be call/put options on a stock or spread vetting an index
I buy/sell looking for a quick profit and close my trades out within a few days
I do t try to understand the companies. I don’t intend to invest that long
I buy something looking to quickly sell it on for profit
It’s why I made a lot of money out of the Covid collapse rather than watch years of investment whittle away to nothing