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Typo it's 24%
"I’m going for a 1.5% drop today and we’ll do worse than BT."
Apparently Drahi has just raised his stake in BT to 25%.
Starts up then drops, up a bit before US opens then plummets
Robleo
Investing isn't an exact science as the path to price discovery is a rocky road riddled with significant noise where meaningful majority shareholders are absent. Even when they are active and committed to the long-term strategy of the company, price discovery and true value is debatable. Just look at the large gulf between the asset valuation multiple in the US vs the rest of the world. American "apples" are valued and appreciated more than non American apples. Its truly contradiction in term as an investor should seek to maximise ROI and to actively seek to profitably close the value gap where one exist.
There are multiple teams who have analysed past stock performances and their findings were that a significant appreciation in a security some years, i.e. if viewed over a 20 year period, is the main contribution to the aggregate performance. In a nutshell, as tempting as it may be to compare prices on a daily, weekly, monthly basis, it's best to have a longer term perspective as there is almost no possibility to time the right infliction points as to when the major moves are about to take place.
Going back to your question about how to achieve a 10% gain - there is no one formula!
Look at things with a longer time horizon. How can you judge which marathon runner will win the race after 10min of running, or even 30min? Especially if they are not ranked off the gate.
I’m going for a 1.5% drop today and we’ll do worse than BT.
MrLong, it's not that simple even, of course they are not all losing money, i have portfolio of 6 funds 1 investment trust and 8 shares
My aim is to grow my pension pot as much as possible, but right now the ones that are making profit just seem to be making up for the ones that are going into loss and just balancing out, and with inflation over 10% you need to be making at least 10% profit just to break even
maybe you guys are doing a lot better, i don't know
If you feel that every share you pick looses, then your doing something right! Your long strategy is incorrect, take a short position via a cfd and you’ll win. All gains are tax free also. Sorted.
Trader, we will have to stop giving in to these temptations
probably be better of with a 4.75 % savings account or even just putting money in a piggy bank lol
just seems to be a no win situation with shares this year, my largest holding is with Lloyds bank and even though they had better than expected results the share price still drops
just out of curiosity is anyone making profits from shares this year? or is it just me picking all the wrong ones
@robleo same here, i was out but tempted to come back in, much higher than you paid :(
This share never fails to disappoint even my last top up @86p is under water now, will it continue it's downward trend or is there a chance this could recover, always difficult to know when to cut your losses and get out
The 3 Vod UK merger will be influenced by the choice of network equipment re China. Retail only merger might be the answer on a VOD/ O2 network, along the lines of an MVNO/ MVNE ?
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/us/meta-fined-record-1-3-billion-and-ordered-to-stop-sending-european-user-data-to-us/ar-AA1bvNYr?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=784409ae9b3e4f83b28b5a92fb58c21d&ei=57
And if you want to continue the fun after close here see the US pick up the baton in this downhill relay
Good luck guys in the run up to ex div.
Fingers crossed E& wants another 5% at these low prices and MDV has kitchen sinked the outlook
86p average here so I hope so too.
Don’t think it will be sinking for long ,when you look all the after hours Buys .
So thats a short closing from 83.45? The UT has been c20m for a while and now 33m. Maybe we pick up a bit from here. I hope so
Whoa, smack me between the eyes, this Vodafone stock is still sinking
Omg how low can this go. I thought 90p was oversold but this is taking the biscuit.
70s look almost inevitable.
Vod is an embarrassment
Looks like a swap?
81.65 33,440,469 27,304,143 UT
83.45 5,092,000 4,249,274 Off-Book
83.45 5,092,000 4,249,274 Off-Book
Ignore that, flaming Google finance just shows really weird data sometimes
Then just like we get a large about turn. large volume buys?
So nothing to do with dot-com bubble bursting then ?
Trader, they couldn’t find anyone willing to take in the job so they only interviewed one person & she got the poisoned chalice.
Any company that states its intention to get rid of such a large proportion of its workforce would set alarm bells ringing, particularly future dividend alarm bells. That, the colossal debt, dwindling income, more and more competition etc etc makes this very unloved.
All those saying no brainer, buy buy etc just need to get real.
It reminds me of Marconi whose income just kept on dwindling until its loans were called in and every shareholder lost every penny.
77.93p was the ATL for the past 25 years .... this was hit in Sep 2002