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Mole-man I think you miss read my post. I definately was not saying you were having a dig at the rich.
"I have just voted all my Tesla shares to give Elon 50bn"
I don't disagree that he deserves the payout agreed many years ago, but I believe Musk's facing future problems. Tesla is at the mercy of cheaper Chinese EV's.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybl8IvhGAJ4
Even though the Starlink satellites have survived the recent solar storms, I'm left wondering if the satellites will see a reduced lifespan due to using excessive fuel during periods of atmospheric drag. I've not seen any articles discussing the effect of atmospheric drag affecting Starlink due to the recent solar storms, but Hubble is around the same altitude and has been affected; I can only assume Starlink satellites have had to use more fuel to compensate for the increased drag.
https://bigthink.com/starts-with-a-bang/northern-lights-hubble/#:~:text=Originally%20launched%20to%20an%20altitude,decay%20due%20to%20atmospheric%20drag.
Mole
Posted in: VOD
Price: 69.68
10 May 2024 10:33
''Strong sell.''
What are you still on this board for?
Dan, would you mind putting my name down to get paid for posting crap on this board, I'm willing to work from home and do flexible hours
Cheers
No Dan not a dig at the rich. Just sad another British company can’t think of anything more innovative than buying back shares with sold at a loss assets.
I have just voted all my Tesla shares to give Elon 50bn, so have no problem with high reward for exceptional performance, value creation and forward execution of a world changing strategy.
Cue the ‘Elon bad’ keyboard warriors.
gutter, ****ed you didn't get the big drop you predicted this morning, again?
Sadley?
It's all about seeing how high this can go by the 05 June 2024 for myself, as this goes exdiv on the 06 June, from then onwards we are depending on growth as the dividend is going to be halved next year, interesting time ahead
GLA
I has gott a bade fealing abowt Vodefone agane.
Mite be beste to putt on you're older army hellmet tomorrow if you has surved.
Don't saye Mr Guttersnipe esquire hasn't warned you...
No problems you am entitled to your own opinion
Newtotrp. Calm down mate, & think before you post. & no I am not paid for just stating the obvious. Nice if I was. Have a good week. Try being freindly. No dictating. You can call me daft if you want & vice versa.
Are you paid for posting for Vodafone people are allowed have and share their thoughts without people like you trying to dictate everyone should have your thoughts
If you do not agree best you stop posting daft digs at people
Newtotrp. Of course the buy back is not just for share save. Why come up with such a daft comment? Think please before you post.
Mole-man. You said on your 14.50 post "Why keep any shares for the share schemes? they already have plenty in treasury" If they already have plenty in treasury they wont need to keep any for share schemes, so they can cancel them, or at least most of them. All this is just the usual have a pop at the rich ,greedy B.O.D. knee jerk reaction. You of course at least think before you negative post. Of course they need to build the business, but how? Not easy in the very competitive market at the moment.
The proposed buy back has nothing to do with share save/employee/management incentive schemes. These schemes would already have been in place, so the main purpose is to reduce the shares in circulation. Each share holder will own a larger slice of the company, but vod still have to pay for the buy back, so it may be a good move or not, only time will tell, but I think a good move. Buy backs for cancelation are good if the sp rises from the buy back price, but bad if lt falls,(common sense). So it is back to the old crystall ball.
Don't think they have any intention on cancelling shares just buying back for share save
Also when they say reduce the share count, that is achieved by putting the shares in to treasury. It is what happens to the treasury shares that we discuss. They will need to consider the share capital before they do thios. It will reduce share capital and may have knock on with debt funding, hence, dangle a gray statement suggesting they will be cancelled, but just never get round to it.
All in all, they shouldn't be wasting capital on this. They need it to build a business. Dreadful strategy here. Will come out in the wash in a few years.
I copy pasted the statement from rns. It says what it says. Keep shares to give to employees, cancel others.
Doesn't say how many they will keep for share scheme, or when the unwanted will be cancelled.
Why keep any for the share schemes? They already have plenty in treasury.
Mole man you are suggesting the company is lying
That's a pretty bizarre and ridiculous allegation
Vodafone has clearly stated that the purpose of the buybacks is to reduce the share count
It's not gray worded. You are lying
Here is the piece from the RNs:
The sole purpose of the Programme is to reduce share capital. Ordinary Shares acquired by Morgan Stanley will be subsequently repurchased by Vodafone, held as treasury shares and then either cancelled or allocated to employee share awards as they fall due.
One has to wonder why are you moleman purposefully misleading with your allegations???
Startin too rolle owver agane sadley toodaye
Culd Finnish in the redde I is fealing
Hoppe I is wrong, butte I is knot offten wrong as you all nose
TBF, There are at least 3 different schemes
Executive, where the options at a set price are granted free
Sharesave, where you can save upto £150 of your own money to invest in shares, creating a tax/NI benefit after 3 & 5 years. (3 being paying the tax at cost price not sale price, 5 being totally tax free)
Then you have employee options, where the employees are able to buy options at a discounted value to the price now vs excercising those options and selling at a profit, or not and your money being returned.
Option 1 and 3 are a creation of new shares, option 2 is bought via a 3rd party on the open market
LTI
Many like to ( some deliberate)(some through lack of knowledge), to confuse the Executive Share schemes,with the employees share schemes.
The employees are the ones earning them their dividends,and get an incentive to invest not free shares.
It’s about buying into the company you work for.
I know you fully understand this, but the more it’s repeated the more it may start to be understand
Narcus. Where do you get your info from? You sound just like another bitter ex vod employee, having a pop at the "useless management"
Nar
''where did you get that4 Billion Euro will be spent over the next couple of years reducing the number of shares with voting rights? The shares are held in treasury likely to be used as free shares for the shameless sharesave schemes for all it's uk employees''
Any shareholder should already know about the stated spend that is planned on share buybacks.
Shares held in treasury do not have voting rights .
What a stupid comment from you - how can a sharesave scheme be for free shares. Employees save money on a monthly basis to then purchase or not purchase shares at a price set at the start of each scheme after the qualifying period.
Any shares in other schemes and bonuses paid in shares instead of cash would come out of the shares held in treasury. To get the full tax benefit of bonus shares instead of cash, they need to be held for a number of years.
The Vodafone buyback programme putting shares into treasury has the same net effect as a scheme that would cancel the shares immediately.
As an example Lloyds would have the shares cancelled immediately after the settlement of any purchase as they have a policy of not holding shares in treasury.
They then issue new shares for staff schemes.
Therefore the Vodafone and Lloyds buyback programmes in the end have the same net effect with regards to reducing shares in the market with voting rights.
I hope this makes things perfectly clear to you.
Especially if the person on the other end speaks like yoda ..then that would be a conversation haha