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Castle can you help with the below:
1. You refer to large gate fees, but what is the figure and where does this come from?
2. Without knowing the long list of variable running costs, how do you know the plant can even afford to run.
3. If it's too expensive, recyclers will not use it
4. Is there legislation forcing them to use this method over an alternative.
As an investment, it's hard to judge whether this is a sustainable product / business.
@Red - I may be able to help on gate fees, as I'm in that industry - it depends heavily on the material spec and purpose. What you need to know?
Legislation is meant to enforce the Waste Hierarchy, which shows the order of preference for waste treatment being Reduce (ideally no waste), Reuse (as is), Recycle (think plastic, glass), Recover (energy from waste / anaerobic digestion), Dispose (Such a shame they couldn't come up with another R for what is effectively landfill).
@Silver....interesting point about those rivers in Asia....we have a business in Asia (Altec) trying to develop PHE/DMG based projects, its been quiet for a long time though.
@Stophe - the big issue with trying to put solutions in place in some of Asia and Africa is that the gate fees simply don't exist to allow for the economic operation of the plant, generally waste issues arise where infrastructure and legislation is poor, so there's usually nobody to pay for the solution.
I was talking about W2E for India and the issue was that the landfills were a source of income (for survival) for thousands of children who would scavenge for anything of value, therefore there was a massive unintended consequence of improving waste management processes.
@30 - thanks for that.
Does that mean there’s a set price per tonnage for certain materials? Castle seems to think this is a great option for old tyres, what would that pay per ton?
Personally I much prefer the recycle and reuse option. Thee’s a lot going on for tyres, rather than chucking them in a DMG
Red there are gate fees to dump un recyclable plastic PHE will give a price way down the line worked out probably by the companies we work for we are only supplying our Engineering plant commissioned for a fee and with service fees etc + a kick back on gate fees . Protos will be all our only + possible Ireland shared with hui after negotiations.
Castle
Silver
How about RECLAMATION of discontinued quarries for landfill.
No worries Red -happy to help. Yes there are gate fees depending on what the material is, generally:
MSW (unsorted black bin bag waste) is about £120/tonne,
Refuse Derived Fuel, or RDF for short (sorted residual and Industrial & Commercial waste with some, but by no means all of the recyclates removed) is about £80-90/tonne,
Solid Recovered Fuel or SRF for short is a more processed version of RDF, tighter controls on certain troublesome elements (such as metals and chlorine in particular) and often a finer shred - this goes loose for £40-50 per tonne, and pelletised for £20-30 per tonne.
Biomass is much more difficult given all of the various grades, generally the clean stuff (virgin and Grade A) you pay for, Grade B can be free tip and Grade C you get paid to take as it's basically sh*te. Grade D is hazardous so only specialists are allowed to take it and they charge like a wounded rhino.
Tyres are a funny one, but the rule of thumb for a while was 50p per car tyre, and £2 per truck tyre, paid as a gate fee to the party receiving the tyres. It's been a while since I looked into tyres after we abandoned a project for Pyrolysis of tyres, mainly due to extremely hazardous byproducts and difficulty in producing clean, pure Carbon Black which is what everyone is really after.
@mjallen - it is happening, but new landfill licences are becoming harder and harder to get, plus imagine the planning issues - most quarry reclamations I'm seeing are for inert landfill (i.e. for aggregate from muck-shift) but there are more and more aggregate wash plants being built now where the material can go to be washed, sifted etc into usable grits, pipe bedding, mixed hardcore like 6F2 and then obviously the sand and clay, depending on where it's from.