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Vaccine certificates before they'll serve you?
Personally,I do not object to it myself.
Trent, I have no objection, however what about the 1000's of under 40's who will not get the vaccine for some months?
Not sure how many Publicans are going to have the requirement as it could present serious logistical issues for some Pubs.
What the hell happened 100 years ago when Spanish flu struck, when there were No vaccines or medical treatments.... people made thier own precautions or they died. I am a realist, now shoot me down!!
Fairdealer/Trent
TBH I have thought since this pandemic started that we have become a nation of bedwetters, scared of our own shadows. An alternative, which I am also not keen on, is that some bright spark might think of adapting the NHS app which would work, but also could be highly intrusive !
Most people I know would prefer their Doctors not knowing how many hours are spent in the pub each week !
I'm not shooting you down mate. You raise some good points. Those that can prove they've been vaccinated shouldn't really take issue proving it I don't think.
Those that haven't been called up yet, or for those that have refused it for whatever reason still needs to be worked on to find a solution. But I am not judging anyone for choosing to, or not to get done. It's our own choice I think to make our own decisions on which way we go.
@Barchid. Again, good points. I'd say that a credit card sized plastic certificate with just your name on it (no medical or other personal/machine readable data on it) would to me he a good idea. If this was something that would allow me to go for a drink, a weekend away, or indeed a foreign holiday to a no or low risk Country with my family, Speaking for myself, I'd be bang up for it.
Trent
I realised where you were coming from, I have in fact already had my first AZN jab but I definitely would prefer no records be kept of my social activities.....
Those who have not or cannot take the vaccine, should be aware of the risks of living. people should take more responsibilty for their life and how they act, not rely on the nanny state.
The constant restrictions on what we can and cannot do is having a much greater impact on people's health than COVID.
The Economic effect is funeral for many Businesses. The Hospitality sector is being masacered , it is going to be a long slow recovery.
I do believe there is more behind this pandemic than Politicians are letting on.
Very peculiar one, when you think about the average age of bar staff ?? the majority of them wouldn’t have had their vaccine would they!
@ Barchid.
Yes, I had my Pfizer one roughly 3 weeks ago now, as did one of our boys. It was a bit of a dilemma which I ummed & Ahh'd about for a good week before the event to be fair.
I wasn't so bothered about taking the risk with the jab for myself, as I'm a big boy and knew as much as everyone else what I was getting into.
My lad on the other hand was quite another story. He is non-verbal and has Downs Syndrome, so I had concerns over possible side effects and him not being able to let me know what's going on.
Anyway, I raised my concerns with the nurse at the walk in centre before I'd let them touch him. Fortunately, all seems well, so just waiting for our 2nd one now.
So called vaccine passports would be an absolute disgrace; an unacceptable infringement on liberty.
For a disease that kills a vanishingly small % of those under 65 to result in all of them having to have experimental chemicals injected into their bloodstream with entirely unknown long-term side-effects just to be allowed to have a pint in the pub with their friends. Sheer idiocy unless your a pharmaceutical investor.
Dystopian medical tyranny. It boggles my mind that this is even being contemplated.
Trent
You have, I am sure I can speak for all the regulars on this board, our most sincere wishes that your lad takes the second one as well as he managed the first, & the very best of luck going forward.
Kindest Regards
Barchid
Cheers barchid. All seems well at the moment, so all is good.
It may be dopey, but when Airlines are making it obligatory, we are in a one way street. I do'nt like it and only took the vaccine in order to travel, otherwise I would not bother.
Hypie best go to off-sales and buy a barrow full of bottles.. Ah wait a minute, do I hear supermarkets are being encouraged to enforce only allowing customers into store who have a "passport".