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Usual weekend update -
I started this fantasy portfolio in 2016 to challenge various posters perception that Lloy is 'the worst share ever', 'better else where' or a 'dire share',
On the 8th Oct 2016 I invited WL/Newchurch to choose an alternative ftse 100 company so I could run a comparison
On 8th Oct 2016 - 1000 quid bought 206 BP. shares & 1905 Lloy shares
Today's value
BP. 206 @ 214 = 441
Lloy 1905 @ 27.2 = 518
In April 2017 Invest4life suggested I add Glencore -
On 22-4-17 - 1000 quid bought 335 Glen shares & 1553 Lloy shares
Today's value
Glen 335 @ 162 = 543
Lloy 1553 @ 27.2 = 422
In July 2017 Nucky suggested I add RBS/Natwest -
On 12-7-17 1000 quid bought 384 Nwg & 1512 Lloy
Today's value
Nwg 384 @ 110 = 422
Lloy 1512 @ 27.2 = 411
In July 2017 Utrickytrees asked that I add BARC -
On 30-7-17 1000 quid bought 479 Barc & 1504 Lloy
Today's value
Barc 479 @ 97.7 = 468
Lloy 1504 @ 27.2 = 409
In Sept 2018 Motley Fool recommended Diageo over Lloyds
On 9-9-18 1000 quid bought 37.3 DGE & 1704 Lloy
DGE 37.3 @ 2683 = £1001
Lloy 1704 @ 27.2 = £463
In April 2020 Theosus asked that I add Circassia -
On 14-4-20 £1000 bought 3891 CIR & 3058 Lloy
CIR 3891 @ 26 = £1012
Lloy 3058 @ 27.2 = £832
In April 2020 TheBoard asked that I add RollsRoyce -
On 25-4-20 £1000 bought 322 RR. & 3367 Lloy
Today's value
RR. 322 @ 114 = £367
Lloy 3367 @ 27.2 = £916
This weeks observation - While we await PRA review some insurance companies EU & US banks restart Divi's, English students to be allowed home for Christmas, MP's break Covid laws, 10pm street parties as quarter of UK now under local lockdown,
A very basic comparison that does no include divi yield, IMO those still suggesting Lloy is 'the worst share ever' or a 'dire share' seriously need to examine their concept of investing.
Real deal
30-3-20 I bought 15,000 Lloy @ 33.606 = £5040
Current value -
LLoy 15000 @ 24.7 = £4080
A1
Usual weekend update -
I started this fantasy portfolio in 2016 to challenge various posters perception that Lloy is 'the worst share ever', 'better else where' or a 'dire share',
On the 8th Oct 2016 I invited WL/Newchurch to choose an alternative ftse 100 company so I could run a comparison
On 8th Oct 2016 - 1000 quid bought 206 BP. shares & 1905 Lloy shares
Today's value
BP. 206 @ 223 = 459
Lloy 1905 @ 28.5 = 543
In April 2017 Invest4life suggested I add Glencore -
On 22-4-17 - 1000 quid bought 335 Glen shares & 1553 Lloy shares
Today's value
Glen 335 @ 174 = 583
Lloy 1553 @ 28.5 = 443
In July 2017 Nucky suggested I add RBS/Natwest -
On 12-7-17 1000 quid bought 384 Nwg & 1512 Lloy
Today's value
Nwg 384 @ 115 = 442
Lloy 1512 @ 28.5 = 431
In July 2017 Utrickytrees asked that I add BARC -
On 30-7-17 1000 quid bought 479 Barc & 1504 Lloy
Today's value
Barc 479 @ 108 = 517
Lloy 1504 @ 28.5 = 429
In Sept 2018 Motley Fool recommended Diageo over Lloyds
On 9-9-18 1000 quid bought 37.3 DGE & 1704 Lloy
DGE 37.3 @ 2708 = £1010
Lloy 1704 @ 28.5 = £486
In April 2020 Theosus asked that I add Circassia -
On 14-4-20 £1000 bought 3891 CIR & 3058 Lloy
CIR 3891 @ 26 = £1012
Lloy 3058 @ 28.5 = £872
In April 2020 TheBoard asked that I add RollsRoyce -
On 25-4-20 £1000 bought 322 RR. & 3367 Lloy
Today's value
RR. 322 @ 210 = £676
Lloy 3367 @ 28.5 = £960
This weeks observation - While we await PRA review some insurance companies EU & US banks restart Divi's, Scotland impose strict rule, Chancellor announces new package of help for worst affected, HMG to announce a new 'tier' system of restrictions,
A very basic comparison that does no include divi yield, IMO those still suggesting Lloy is 'the worst share ever' or a 'dire share' seriously need to examine their concept of investing.
Real deal
30-3-20 I bought 15,000 Lloy @ 33.606 = £5040
Current value -
LLoy 15000 @ 24.7 = £4275
A1
Usual weekend update -
I started this fantasy portfolio in 2016 to challenge various posters perception that Lloy is 'the worst share ever', 'better else where' or a 'dire share',
On the 8th Oct 2016 I invited WL/Newchurch to choose an alternative ftse 100 company so I could run a comparison
On 8th Oct 2016 - 1000 quid bought 206 BP. shares & 1905 Lloy shares
Today's value
BP. 206 @ 209 = 430
Lloy 1905 @ 27 = 514
In April 2017 Invest4life suggested I add Glencore -
On 22-4-17 - 1000 quid bought 335 Glen shares & 1553 Lloy shares
Today's value
Glen 335 @ 164 = 549
Lloy 1553 @ 27 = 419
In July 2017 Nucky suggested I add RBS/Natwest -
On 12-7-17 1000 quid bought 384 Nwg & 1512 Lloy
Today's value
Nwg 384 @ 113 = 434
Lloy 1512 @ 27 = 408
In July 2017 Utrickytrees asked that I add BARC -
On 30-7-17 1000 quid bought 479 Barc & 1504 Lloy
Today's value
Barc 479 @ 102 = 489
Lloy 1504 @ 27 = 406
In Sept 2018 Motley Fool recommended Diageo over Lloyds
On 9-9-18 1000 quid bought 37.3 DGE & 1704 Lloy
DGE 37.3 @ 2655 = £990
Lloy 1704 @ 27 = £460
In April 2020 Theosus asked that I add Circassia -
On 14-4-20 £1000 bought 3891 CIR & 3058 Lloy
CIR 3891 @ 25.2 = £981
Lloy 3058 @ 27 = £826
In April 2020 TheBoard asked that I add RollsRoyce -
On 25-4-20 £1000 bought 322 RR. & 3367 Lloy
Today's value
RR. 322 @ 222 = £715
Lloy 3367 @ 27 = £909
This weeks observation - While we await PRA review some insurance companies EU & US banks restart Divi's, Labour plays politics with the Pandemic, EU trade talks reach an impasse, Large portion of UK enter strict covid restrictions,
A very basic comparison that does no include divi yield, IMO those still suggesting Lloy is 'the worst share ever' or a 'dire share' seriously need to examine their concept of investing.
Real deal
30-3-20 I bought 15,000 Lloy @ 33.606 = £5040
Current value -
LLoy 15000 @ 27 = £4050
A1
hi asp i do like your post with all the comparisons , i invested 27k on various mainly 5 co, lloy being a big factor over 10 years ago ,my portfo is now only worth 26K so what do i know? hey , i have left the divis in and bought and sold various over 10 years what do i know? by not taking out any money i now have 3 times the amount of shares in said 5 companies when this covid is over and brexit is behind us divis start paying again ca ching fingers crossed
Thanks Cookoo - I maintain it for my own ref - when I hear posters say things like 'Lloy is a dog' or 'better else where' the fantasy portfolio provides reassurance that my long term hold strategy is safer than thinking the grass is greener else where, just hope the PRA will release us from the divi ban soon, but this 2nd covid wave ain't helping!!!
A1,
"Thanks Cookoo - I maintain it for my own ref - when I hear posters say things like 'Lloy is a dog' or 'better else where' the fantasy portfolio provides reassurance that my long term hold strategy is safer "
Absolutely my friend ! It's a real eye opener and I'm certain most of us on here are extremely grateful for the time you allocate to keep us informed of the weekly variance .
All will come good eventually , specially if RR provide us with mini N reactors in a handful of yrs , to enable us to become self sufficient power wise .
Keep well bud !
Usual weekend update -
I started this fantasy portfolio in 2016 to challenge various posters perception that Lloy is 'the worst share ever', 'better else where' or a 'dire share',
On the 8th Oct 2016 I invited WL/Newchurch to choose an alternative ftse 100 company so I could run a comparison
On 8th Oct 2016 - 1000 quid bought 206 BP. shares & 1905 Lloy shares
Today's value
BP. 206 @ 206 = 424
Lloy 1905 @ 29.3 = 558
In April 2017 Invest4life suggested I add Glencore -
On 22-4-17 - 1000 quid bought 335 Glen shares & 1553 Lloy shares
Today's value
Glen 335 @ 167 = 560
Lloy 1553 @ 29.3 = 455
In July 2017 Nucky suggested I add RBS/Natwest -
On 12-7-17 1000 quid bought 384 Nwg & 1512 Lloy
Today's value
Nwg 384 @ 123 = 472
Lloy 1512 @ 29.3 = 443
In July 2017 Utrickytrees asked that I add BARC -
On 30-7-17 1000 quid bought 479 Barc & 1504 Lloy
Today's value
Barc 479 @ 112 = 536
Lloy 1504 @ 29.3 = 441
In Sept 2018 Motley Fool recommended Diageo over Lloyds
On 9-9-18 1000 quid bought 37.3 DGE & 1704 Lloy
DGE 37.3 @ 2629 = £981
Lloy 1704 @ 29.3 = £499
In April 2020 Theosus asked that I add Circassia -
On 14-4-20 £1000 bought 3891 CIR & 3058 Lloy
CIR 3891 @ 24 = £934
Lloy 3058 @ 29.3 = £896
In April 2020 TheBoard asked that I add RollsRoyce -
On 25-4-20 £1000 bought 322 RR. & 3367 Lloy
Today's value
RR. 322 @ 244 = £786
Lloy 3367 @ 29.3 = £987
This weeks observation - PRA divi review imminent, Large portion of UK enter strict Covid restrictions, Wales goes 'firebreak' lockdown, Scotland tries 5 tier system, Andy Burnham to replace Starmer as Labour Leader?, crunch time for EU trade deal,
A very basic comparison that does no include divi yield, IMO those still suggesting Lloy is 'the worst share ever' or a 'dire share' seriously need to examine their concept of investing.
Real deal
30-3-20 I bought 15,000 Lloy @ 33.606 = £5040
Current value -
LLoy 15000 @ 29.3 = £4395
A1
Usual weekend update -
I started this fantasy portfolio in 2016 to challenge various posters perception that Lloy is 'the worst share ever', 'better else where' or a 'dire share',
On the 8th Oct 2016 I invited WL/Newchurch to choose an alternative ftse 100 company so I could run a comparison
On 8th Oct 2016 - 1000 quid bought 206 BP. shares & 1905 Lloy shares
Today's value
BP. 206 @ 197 = 406
Lloy 1905 @ 27.9 = 531
In April 2017 Invest4life suggested I add Glencore -
On 22-4-17 - 1000 quid bought 335 Glen shares & 1553 Lloy shares
Today's value
Glen 335 @ 155 = 519
Lloy 1553 @ 27.9 = 433
In July 2017 Nucky suggested I add RBS/Natwest -
On 12-7-17 1000 quid bought 384 Nwg & 1512 Lloy
Today's value
Nwg 384 @ 124 = 476
Lloy 1512 @ 27.9 = 422
In July 2017 Utrickytrees asked that I add BARC -
On 30-7-17 1000 quid bought 479 Barc & 1504 Lloy
Today's value
Barc 479 @ 106 = 508
Lloy 1504 @ 27.9 = 420
In Sept 2018 Motley Fool recommended Diageo over Lloyds
On 9-9-18 1000 quid bought 37.3 DGE & 1704 Lloy
DGE 37.3 @ 2496 = £931
Lloy 1704 @ 27.9 = £475
In April 2020 Theosus asked that I add Circassia -
On 14-4-20 £1000 bought 3891 CIR & 3058 Lloy
CIR 3891 @ 22.4 = £872
Lloy 3058 @ 27.9 = £853
In April 2020 TheBoard asked that I add RollsRoyce -
On 25-4-20 £1000 bought 322 RR. & 3367 Lloy
Today's value
RR. post 10for3RI 1073 @ 69.7 = £748
Lloy 3367 @ 27.9 = £939
This weeks observation - Banks in talks with PRA, divi review imminent, Large portion of UK under strict Covid restrictions, Wales goes 'firebreak' lockdown, Scotland goes 5 tier system, Corbyn suspended from Labour Party, No idea what's happening re EU trade deal !!!
A very basic comparison that does no include divi yield, IMO those still suggesting Lloy is 'the worst share ever' or a 'dire share' seriously need to examine their concept of investing.
Real deal
30-3-20 I bought 15,000 Lloy @ 33.606 = £5040
Current value -
LLoy 15000 @ 27.9 = £4185
A1
Usual weekend update -
I started this fantasy portfolio in 2016 to challenge various posters perception that Lloy is 'the worst share ever', 'better else where' or a 'dire share',
On the 8th Oct 2016 I invited WL/Newchurch to choose an alternative ftse 100 company so I could run a comparison
On 8th Oct 2016 - 1000 quid bought 206 BP. shares & 1905 Lloy shares
Today's value
BP. 206 @ 200 = 412
Lloy 1905 @ 27.5 = 521
In April 2017 Invest4life suggested I add Glencore -
On 22-4-17 - 1000 quid bought 335 Glen shares & 1553 Lloy shares
Today's value
Glen 335 @ 170 = 570
Lloy 1553 @ 27.4 = 427
In July 2017 Nucky suggested I add RBS/Natwest -
On 12-7-17 1000 quid bought 384 Nwg & 1512 Lloy
Today's value
Nwg 384 @ 125 = 480
Lloy 1512 @ 27.4 = 414
In July 2017 Utrickytrees asked that I add BARC -
On 30-7-17 1000 quid bought 479 Barc & 1504 Lloy
Today's value
Barc 479 @ 111 = 532
Lloy 1504 @ 27.4 = 414
In Sept 2018 Motley Fool recommended Diageo over Lloyds
On 9-9-18 1000 quid bought 37.3 DGE & 1704 Lloy
DGE 37.3 @ 2642 = £985
Lloy 1704 @ 27.4 = £469
In April 2020 Theosus asked that I add Circassia -
On 14-4-20 £1000 bought 3891 CIR & 3058 Lloy
CIR 3891 @ 25 = £972
Lloy 3058 @ 27.4 = £841
In April 2020 TheBoard asked that I add RollsRoyce -
On 25-4-20 £1000 bought 322 RR. & 3367 Lloy
Today's value
RR. post 10for3RI 1073 @ 69.7 = £748
Lloy 3367 @ 27.4 = £923
This weeks observation - US election fiasco, Banks in talks with PRA - divi review imminent, All of UK under strict Covid restrictions, England under one month 'socialising lockdown', Wales under 'firebreak' lockdown, Scotland under '5 tier' restrictions, Still no idea what's happening re EU trade deal !!!
A very basic comparison that does no include divi yield, IMO those still suggesting Lloy is 'the worst share ever' or a 'dire share' seriously need to examine their concept of investing.
Real deal
30-3-20 I bought 15,000 Lloy @ 33.606 = £5040
Current value -
LLoy 15000 @ 27.4 = £4110
A1
Usual weekend update -
I started this fantasy portfolio in 2016 to challenge various posters perception that Lloy is 'the worst share ever', 'better else where' or a 'dire share',
On the 8th Oct 2016 I invited WL/Newchurch to choose an alternative ftse 100 company so I could run a comparison
On 8th Oct 2016 - 1000 quid bought 206 BP. shares & 1905 Lloy shares
Today's value
BP. 206 @ 237 = 488
Lloy 1905 @ 34.7 = 661
In April 2017 Invest4life suggested I add Glencore -
On 22-4-17 - 1000 quid bought 335 Glen shares & 1553 Lloy shares
Today's value
Glen 335 @ 190 = 637
Lloy 1553 @ 34.7 = 539
In July 2017 Nucky suggested I add RBS/Natwest -
On 12-7-17 1000 quid bought 384 Nwg & 1512 Lloy
Today's value
NWG 384 @ 148 = 568
Lloy 1512 @ 34.7 = 525
In July 2017 Utrickytrees asked that I add BARC -
On 30-7-17 1000 quid bought 479 Barc & 1504 Lloy
Today's value
Barc 479 @ 134 = 642
Lloy 1504 @ 34.7 = 522
In Sept 2018 Motley Fool recommended Diageo over Lloyds
On 9-9-18 1000 quid bought 37.3 DGE & 1704 Lloy
DGE 37.3 @ 2904 = £1083
Lloy 1704 @ 34.7 = £591
In April 2020 Theosus asked that I add Circassia -
On 14-4-20 £1000 bought 3891 CIR & 3058 Lloy
CIR 3891 @ 26 = £1012
Lloy 3058 @ 34.7 = £1061
In April 2020 TheBoard asked that I add RollsRoyce -
On 25-4-20 £1000 bought 322 RR. & 3367 Lloy
Today's value
RR. post 10for3RI 1073 @ 93.7 = £1005
Lloy 3367 @ 34.7 = £1168
This weeks observation -Vaccine hope lift markets, Banks in talks with PRA - divi review imminent, England under one month 'socialising lockdown', Wales exits 'firebreak' lockdown, Scotland under '5 tier' restrictions, Still no idea what's happening re EU trade deal !!!
A very basic comparison that does no include divi yield, IMO those still suggesting Lloy is 'the worst share ever' or a 'dire share' seriously need to examine their concept of investing.
Real deal
30-3-20 I bought 15,000 Lloy @ 33.606 = £5040
Current value -
LLoy 15000 @ 34.7 = £5205
A1
Asper
but that doesn't make it a good investment. You cannot deny that even before the pandemic the LLOY sp performance was poor. For example, in Jan 2020 I bought 100,000 LLOY shares at just under 60p, the price then declined before the pandemic to around 50p. On the 13 March I sold with a huge loss at 36p. On the 19th March I bought DTG (JET2) at an intra day low of 1.94 which is now trading at £12.
I was one that was saying that the LLOY sp would fall to below 25p and it did. I also posted that I would not be happy at buying until after the US Presidential election and I did at 27.4p. Now I am gambling on the sp recovering as more and more uncertainties disappear.
We can all be selective on what we compare. Is LLOY the worst share ever? No but your comparison does not make it a good performing share either.
l
''I would not be happy at buying until after the US Presidential election and I did at 27.4p''
Did you change your mind as you said that you were sitting on cash until the end of November.
The US election is not a driver for the Lloyds share price, it is the battle with Covid 19 and to a lesser extent whether the EU can get a trade deal with the UK.
Leas
I suppose the good news on the vaccine front would have brought forward the spending of some of your cash, as it must of with many others, hence the good spike up
lti i think we can take it as read now that there will be no deal ,with the threat/blackmail attempt by barnier to disrupt access to electric supplies, no english pm can cave to blackmail so i would assume no deal and wto rules has been rubber stamped and that why dc has left his job has been done
LTI
Save you the trouble of reading my posts but I traded DTG. I didn’t say I am still invested. I was making the point that we can all be selective. I made my loss back on that trade.
I have been entirely in cash for several months.
Johnson and the UK cannot afford a no deal. A deal will be made. It will be in the eu's favour but it will be sold here as a victory.
Leas
'' I traded DTG. I didn’t say I am still invested''
You've lost me , I haven't mentioned DTG.
I posted about Lloyds, and that you must have changed your position because of the vaccine news
avocet, despite the outcome of the negotiations it cannot be worse than the path we were going down with Theresa May..
I bought BP and LLOY last Thursday as any credible challenge of the US election subsided. I’m still mainly in cash and will cover any changing fundamentals as this current year progresses. News on a vaccine was coincidental and likely to be more news anytime now on other drugs. The Oxford vaccine is probably going to be better than the PfizerBio one with some commenting on it’s easier delivery but only time will tell.
L
That where it doesn't make sense. The US election result was not a basis on which to invest.
BP and Lloyds and many others have spiked up purely on the vaccine news, so you could say that you were very lucky that the vaccine news coincidentally came out after the US election.
You could say I’m lucky but I could have been luckier and invested the 80% cash I have left from my dealing account.
L
As I said, VERY lucky.
Going from being negative on LLoyds at 26p, to then buying them at under 28p all because the US election was over.
LTI, flattered that you follow me. My strategy has been to drop money in that markets as major uncertainties are illuminated one by one. Hence not going all in.
Not a ramper or otherwise. I post my views as I see them. Not bullish here by any stretch of the imagination but was responding to aspers selective posting in comparisons.
Leas
I don't follow you in particular, I follow what people say.
Good luck investing some more cash. I'm sure there are some very safe investments where you can get a better return than close to zero with cash
Leas -
For some reason people like to Bash Lloy - my fantasy portfolio only had to show Lloy was no worse than others to make my point - I don't know why Lloy's P/E always seems low compared to other companies, but it is - for me its all about divi income, and pre covid returns were market leading, I trust they will return in the new year