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Oldblue: you wrote " ... and if you dont understand whats wrong with the below pls pls pls stop posting this garbage"
Please explain what's wrong with my assesment !
But you won't, simply because your incapable, I challenge you !!!
Oldblue: until you can refute what I say your postings are simply a joke.
lol you chalenge me what too dominoes? best out off 3? if you cant see whats wrong you shouldnt be posting it not upto me to tell you where its right or wrong and im far to much enjoying you not knowing that its wrong too ever tell you where the error in your calcs are
Oldblue, answer the question or shut up! You are not an engineer and have no clue how the magical unicorn charger works. Hint…it doesn’t work at all.
Oldblue: it seems it's only you that can find errors. Go on be devil make me look a fool !
For all your bluster and claims YOU CAN'T
dominoes it is then
Oldblue: why are actually on this board, it's obvious you have no interest in sensible discussion. Your post the same thing over and over again to try and discredit me, the psychiatrist rubbish.
If you want to discredit me it's only a matter of refuting what I've said with sensible discussion or pointing out where my pathetically simple estimates are incorrect. Not much to ask of a design HVAC engineer I would have thought. Instead you indulge in childish antics, wake up sonny.
the psychiatrist...do you really want me to trawl tho hundreds off posts to find where you claimed you where one?
i have explained it many times you dont listen or take it in ill explain it simply as i can
1. the charger and the WHR are 2 sepertate entities and you cant use numbers from one to the other
2. and most funny off all we actually dont have enought data from the units to make any SENSIBLE calcualtions!!!!
so you coming up with random rubbish and trying to apply it to the other is just that .....the reason i dont try to make calcs is there isnt enought data or spec info from the unit/units to do any calcs and im sensible enought not to make or try to make calcs that cant be done
i discredit you ???you do that yourself you need no help from me and no childish antics again thats you losing the argument
good enought for you?
is that sensible enought ???but youl ignore it again as usual
THERE IS NOT ENOUGHT DATA TO DO THE CLACS YOU ARE TRYING TO DO!!!! good enought for you?
its like a hoover and a washing machine having the same motor and you trying to do calcs from one to the other with so mininal data that it cant be done.
if you dont understand that pls stop posting or at least take off the silly STRONG SELL as if you dont understand the units you shouldnt be giving an opioion(please note i dont give one or try to get folk to buy/sell just share data/info with REAL investors)
Oldblue: Let us slowly work through your “answer” firstly your claim that Charger and WHR system are different entities. You also previously talked about different mediums air/water.
But I’ll let In-spirit themselves contradict your statement ! They say.
“The core development to date on the mCHP and Stirling Technology is the base technology that will be applied the marine, waste heat recovery and automotive sectors"
Now it is very clear, because In-spirit state it in black and white THE MCHP AND STIRLING TECHNOLOGY IS THE BASE THECHNOLOGY THAT WILL BE APPLIED TO THE MARINE, WHR AND AUTOMOTIVE SECTORS.
I think any sensible person would have no doubt in the interpretation that WHR is based upon the Stirling engine. At this point you may wish to dispute that conclusion but you would have no evidence whatsoever, from any In-spirit communication that some other ‘entity’ exists or is in development that does not use their Stirling engine.
So what Stirling engine ? Well again from the information at our disposal, In-spirit’s RNS statements from 2011 to the present; there is nothing that suggests there is anything but the 6.4 kW rated Stirling which has been in development for 10 years – supposedly and has cost investors millions.
The Stirling engine converts heat into electricity, For WHR we take a Stirling engine and throw the gas burner away and fit heat exchangers to the D13 exhaust and transfer that heat to the Stirling engine to produce ‘free’ electricity
We have all the data we need to perform a pathetically simple calculation. A 8.58 HP (6.4 kW) In-spirit Stirling engine can only improve a 375 HP D13 by 8.58/ 375 HP = 2.2 % efficiency gain. The gain is small compared to other theoretical systems i.e. the Rankine system you referenced and the In-spirit system is heavy and expensive.
There are no random numbers, there are just 2, both taken from manufacturers data. The calculation, if you can grace it with the term, is eminently sensible.
Your air/water mediums is bizarre. The only water is used to cool the cold end of the Stirling engine and thus a by-product is heating water, as used in the mCHP. Application.
The whole point of WHR is to create electricity from waste heat and thus improve the efficiency of the device which creates said waste heat.
If the Hoover and washing machine have the same motor then apart from different loads then it is very easy to compare their performance. As you say yourself IT IS THE SAME MOTOR
A 6.4 kW motor is a 6.4 kW motor whatever it's in. It may develop less power but it won't develop more than 6.4 kW unless Its used beyond its safe limits
i give up like talking to a brick wall all you getting is the phimx standard daily from now on its just pointless
you just producing endless NEGATIVE drivel
ok phimx posts mostly inspirit all NEGATIVE apparently has no shares in inspirit
post from 28 sept 2020 16;46 (pls look it up its there)
Oldblue: I can make more money in a day than my wife makes in a week just talking to people like you.
now ill let you decide what he is i kinda think i know :-) the filter button is a wonderfull thing and ill keep posting this up
and if your new yes this boards a bit toxic theres been a team off shorters active for quite some time (1-2 plus years)
phimx......the.buffalo.....and thordon.....by all means read there posts but beware off what they write and you may want to filter them as they have been pointed out as activly shorting the stock.....freindly warning thats all GLA real holders
and phimx also seems to think hes a pschiatrist as well.....yup thats right.....in between him camped on this board...lol
Taking a cue from oldblue and with thanks to Phimx.
Oldblue: Let us slowly work through your “answer” firstly your claim that Charger and WHR system are different entities. You also previously talked about different mediums air/water.
But I’ll let In-spirit themselves contradict your statement ! They say.
“The core development to date on the mCHP and Stirling Technology is the base technology that will be applied the marine, waste heat recovery and automotive sectors"
Now it is very clear, because In-spirit state it in black and white THE MCHP AND STIRLING TECHNOLOGY IS THE BASE THECHNOLOGY THAT WILL BE APPLIED TO THE MARINE, WHR AND AUTOMOTIVE SECTORS.
I think any sensible person would have no doubt in the interpretation that WHR is based upon the Stirling engine. At this point you may wish to dispute that conclusion but you would have no evidence whatsoever, from any In-spirit communication that some other ‘entity’ exists or is in development that does not use their Stirling engine.
So what Stirling engine ? Well again from the information at our disposal, In-spirit’s RNS statements from 2011 to the present; there is nothing that suggests there is anything but the 6.4 kW rated Stirling which has been in development for 10 years – supposedly and has cost investors millions.
The Stirling engine converts heat into electricity, For WHR we take a Stirling engine and throw the gas burner away and fit heat exchangers to the D13 exhaust and transfer that heat to the Stirling engine to produce ‘free’ electricity
We have all the data we need to perform a pathetically simple calculation. A 8.58 HP (6.4 kW) In-spirit Stirling engine can only improve a 375 HP D13 by 8.58/ 375 HP = 2.2 % efficiency gain. The gain is small compared to other theoretical systems i.e. the Rankine system you referenced and the In-spirit system is heavy and expensive.
There are no random numbers, there are just 2, both taken from manufacturers data. The calculation, if you can grace it with the term, is eminently sensible.
Your air/water mediums is bizarre. The only water is used to cool the cold end of the Stirling engine and thus a by-product is heating water, as used in the mCHP. Application.
The whole point of WHR is to create electricity from waste heat and thus improve the efficiency of the device which creates said waste heat.
If the Hoover and washing machine have the same motor then apart from different loads then it is very easy to compare their performance. As you say yourself IT IS THE SAME MOTOR
lol you dont get it....
https://www.lse.co.uk/rns/INSP/product-update-d9it7ko3xw1k3hi.html
During the demonstration, the novel three stage heat recycling process increased engine efficiency by approximately 20%, driven by waste heat from e.g. a Volvo Penta D13 series engine.
ok now the thesis in there they tried the rankine it increase the EFFICENCY of the ENGINE by 7% not good enought
https://odr.chalmers.se/bitstream/20.500.12380/300716/1/Master-%20A.%20G.%20Bharadwaj%2C%20W.%20Al%20Haji.pdf
you might be applying the 20% to the WRONG engine lol all imho etc etc lol lol lol
please please please you 2 dont actually try to engineer anything at all it will collapse or blow up
Oldblue: I'll ask the question again
Which engine had its output increased by 20% ?????
The D13 or the Stirling ???
lol if you have to ask that you have no idea how the tech works...
as i said light comic relief whilst waiting till jan-march
Oldblue: Another question you can't answer sensibly or maturely !!
and phimx i did answer your question in the best way that i could
your question was
Which engine had its output increased by 20% ?????
The D13 or the Stirling ???
my answer is
lol if you have to ask that you have no idea how the tech works...
its not upto me to tell you how this works grandpa DYOR!!!!!
Oldblue:
I think everyone can see you don't know the answer. You are simply embarrassing yourself and creating the very toxic board you've warned against.
I wonder why In-spirit feel the need to increase the temperature of the D13 exhaust heat using " In-spirit Helix Accelerator" ? The exhaust gas temperature is already quite high and in plentiful supply. From the link, to the thesis, kindly provided by Oldblue, we can estimate a D13 375 HP engine at 75% loading will have an exhaust temperatures of about 460 °C. This could potentially give a Stirling engine 60% efficiency, cold end at 20 °C and that is pretty d****d hot in my book.
Why bother ??
why are you again playing with imaginary numbers are you trying to make yourself look like you know what your talking about?
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