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Year to date:
OIL = (Both Brent and WTI) = + 140%
ENQUEST = + 122%
TULLOW = + 81%
HURRICANE ENERGY = + 78%
BP = + 62%
SHELL = + 40%
HBR = - 3%
PMO = - 48%
I have been in the stock market for over 40 years. I have never ever seen a share underperforming (huge understatement) its peers in the same sector by this astonishing amount. It’s not as if HBR and PMO have gained less than the others. They are actually DOWN as opposed to all other peers who are up between 40% and 122% (with an average of around 80% since Majors BP and Shell have far smaller risk and leverage that our peers TLW, ENQ and HUR). TLW have bigger debt than us and far smaller production. ENQ and HUR were almost bankrupt only a few months ago. They all recovered splendidly and gave their investors huge gains. PMO and HBR have given us heartache and debt. So long
"HBR costs an absolute fortune to poor investors like me"
" have been in the stock market for over 40 years."
you have been in the market for 40 years and you're still poor ? yeah please enlighten us with your wisdom we would like to follow your path
You only have to see the trades to think the SP is performing VERY weirdly?
BUT this must be something to do with the creditors off loading their preferential stakes????
How the market is the registering a decay when the buys are "registering" as so many unless they are sell?
From LSE "fundamental" tab
No of Trades 2,782
Vol Sold 383,275
Vol Bought 742,757
Further comments anyone?
Rgds Sft
Kinneyscott… no… we shall follow your wisdom. Ramping up this share and crashing 50% since March, when oil is up 300% and other oil shares have gained 140%. You keep investing in HBR. I shall invest in something less astonishingly pathetic and farcical
Surfit… again and again and again and again and again…. Creditor shares being offloaded… that’s the reason why our sp is at farcical levels and we keep dropping 6% on a positive day in all markets. If it’s true what you say, then first of all how many freaking creditors shares are there in the market. 9000099 billion?!?’ Secondly, ask yourself why all these creditors elect to sell instead of keeping and buying more, since this pathetic sp should attract them and the Institutions. Al it’s attracting is flies and rampers here have become farcical
Surfit… you are asking for comments to your pathetic post. A pathetic post can only have pathetic comments. You are another No Fear… Every single day, you say that there have been a lot more Buys than Sell. That’s why the sp tanks and tanks and tanks. Every single share is up this year. Not just up. Up by a minimum of 50% (even Lloyds!!!!) to 1,000%. But we are down 50%. Lovely. More Buys? less Sells? Pigs fly? Oh yeah!
Hi Oil, as you know (not want to teach granny to suck eggs etc) it was
18% went to PMO creditors
36% EIG
33% EIG investors
8% Chryasor legacy investors
5% us lot
So that's 18% of total current 926m share (after 20:1 share consolidation).
As AndyPop has said on ADFN (I see this logic) these creditors are not in the business of share ownership they lent money on a set return and exit date. This was blown out of the water when PMO could not meet the negotiatiated debt repayment date and rather than PMO potentially fold they accepted lowered shares and cash options instead.
So they want their cash back and being stuck to share sale restriction dates 6 months and 1 year (dependent on type, I belive) these creditors ARE NOT in the business to be share holders
SO
Could employ a stratagem and company or thirty own financial department to offload appropriately, selling down to a point where its too low infringing on the value they were gifted the shares) . Now the bit the interests me is the a time line on the new buyers taking up (maybe controlled by mm's).
This is why I see it as SP lowering off, then the gradually picking (New buyers) up to a SP level when the creditors start the sell off in tranches again??????, Keep repeating process, untill fully offloaded. Possible this suits the new buyers (investment/pension holders???, as they are getting in in a better price folling the fluctuations with in a understandable range. Not sure if this is correct as I am not a professional broker.
And we have not hit the 1 year share hold restriction yet either. This is just those that had the 6 month hold restriction (I think I am right on the two compulsory hold periods, can't remember exactly).
That how I see it.
And No Fear might be more knowledgeably on the time and relevant numbers of shares held in each time period that encompass the 18%. NOTE: Made a bit more difficult to calculate as of the blxxdy surprise share rerate that HBR sprang on us!, but not the institutions (my guess).
All my opinions only.
Rgds Sft
Hahaaa just caught your last post: bit harsh chap.
But I am not sensitive so fill yer boots.
If you have the answer would be thrilled to hear them, but if you do not know Jack, then carry on having a cry in your beer.
Kind regards Sft
Also I feel you frustration:
Up 48% on my BP holdings and about 140% on Kistos energy BUT did not have enough cash to keep averaging down on PMO/ HBR! A touch frustrating as I had made a killing on Rock Rose but squandered that on PMO and RKH in the forlorn attempt to catch that falling averages. Expensive lessons....but learnt get out of a heavily and fragmented indebted company (PMO) and Never never invest in a poorly managed / no previous track record one (RKH) !@!£
I am hoping HBR come good but after abandoning SL and Zama in long term limbo potentially those loss of reserves has really changed the game for me now.....
Rgds Sft
Rgds Sft
yeah oily boy my 12p old money average bags are heavy please send some help
no wonder you made no money in 40 years , you're impatient , remember , buy low sell high not the other way around
let me take a wild guess , you jumped into Etsy / Affirm / newegg after they ran ? or are you planning to finally pull the trigger at bitcoin after it breaks the ATH ? oh no i bet you're the type of guy to buy cardano at 3 , you did didn't you ?
i bought airlines and cruises in april when everyone was scared to touch them because of the coof, final nail in the coffin was when buffet told his sheep that he was out of delta airlines bloody bastard gave me spirit airlines under 10$ , sold them for 36 , easiest hold of my life
Oil you obviously don’t know how to trade. Thanks to this morning my average is now 1.60, old money 0.08p so yes I’m still laughing and have all my shares. I will also find more opportunities to keep averaging down. But I Suppose that’s what happens to people like me……
guys, you dont get it that many here are being payed opinion-makers. @oil is one of them, otherwise he would just DO what he says: sell and go elsewhere and not spend time to try to convince other people from his so-called wisdom, because he is Mother Theresa....
Don´t even argue with these guys. It´s sad that LSE is full of these people, but thats the way it is. Shorters and commercial investors have well noticed that bullboards serve to influence retail investors, especially when they want someone to sell shares to them.
A good day to every investor in here.
Payed dumpsters: think it over: why has your mother given birth to you? To do what you do right now? Great thing to live the life of a vermin?
I don't believe anyone is paid to post but anything is possible.
I think OIL is MEMBERS the all time ultimate PMOANER whol hasn't posted for ages , our resident Victor meldrew, :-)
Karmakanix… well done! Oil is Members!!!! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha