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The Independent
Revealed: 17 MPs claim £1.3m in rent from taxpayer – while letting their own homes
Adam Forrest
Fri, 12 November 2021, 9:21 am
Five ministers in Boris Johnson’s government are among a group of MPs who have claimed more than £1m from the taxpayer to cover their rent payments, while letting properties that they own in London.
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/revealed-17-mps-claim-1-214850643.html
Seeking Alpha Trade war looms!
The United Kingdom and European Union are back at the negotiating table today in an attempt to dodge a looming trade war. While Britain officially left the EU in January 2020, a number of hard-fought trade arrangements that have been inked since then have been criticized for disrupting trade. Specifically, the U.K. feels there are difficulties in implementing required checks on goods moving from Great Britain to Northern Ireland, which lies just across the Irish Sea to the west.
Backdrop: Last month, the European Commission proposed to adapt certain parts of the trade deal in an effort to make it easier for these checks to take place. However, EU officials have since complained that the government of U.K. Prime Minister Boris Johnson is not showing a willingness to negotiate and its proposals mark "a significant difference" from the original trade deal.
In fact, U.K. Brexit Minister David Frost feels that all checks on goods moving from Great Britain to Northern Ireland should come to an end. Businesses would instead be trusted to inform authorities if products will stay in Northern Ireland or continue to the Republic of Ireland, which is part of the EU. The European Commission does not want to leave the trust up to companies due to worries that products (that don't meet European standards) could end up in the EU's single market.
Tough talk: Frost has gone a step further, threatening to trigger Article 16 of the Northern Ireland protocol, which could lead to the suspension of part of Brexit trade deal on the basis that it's causing "economic, societal, or environmental difficulties." The EU is meanwhile preparing a package of retaliatory measures in case that scenario should play out. "Senior EU officials are extremely gloomy about the outlook and believe escalation in the form of a trade war, probably early in the new year, is now almost unavoidable," according to analysts at consultancy group Eurasia.
They're all the bloody same tibbles.
tibbles you have been warned before!!!! stop being such a boring old bistard, geriactric idiot lol
If Boris continues in current form , the Conservative Party should get him kicked out of number 10 before he can do more damage. I do not mind admitting that I have been a paid up member for only 3 years but with very weak opposition and foul mouths to boot, is it any wonder that at least one opinion poll is giving Labour a lead. Sleaze and imbecile behaviour by BJ such as hiring a private jet to fly back to London from COP 26 for dinner at the Reform Club will hardly go down well with middle England.
Mark999999,
I bet you luv Boris!!
I car not jot about your warnings or for the cut of your jib sir!
i still have contact with those in the Greater London Authority who were left with the aftermath of Boris's term of office as mayor to cope with.
As Mayor Boris could never be bothered with the detail of anything he was involved with ,he just wanted the kudos of each project before moving on and when things went wrong he always blamed others.
Boris is behaving exactly the same now, he lied he lied about Brexit and Tory policy during the election campaign and he has lied about just about everything else ever since..
Boris doesn't care, he just wants to be king and fornicate as much as possible before he moves onto something else!
I agree that some that the rude remarks made by certain Labour party MP's were inappropriate and unfortunate, but possibly down in some part to pent up frustration, although unfortunately that type of behaviour is counter productive in many ways..
Its very difficult to be a strong opposition with such a small majority and this is a direct result of the present present first past the post electoral system, rather than the fairer method of proportional representation.
Also the mainstream media is only really interested in concentrating on controversial subjects or individuals ,which evil clown Boris is well aware of when he plays the bumbling fool!
Whatever ones party the present UK electoral system is certainly not democratic in its present form
https://www.electoral-reform.org.uk/
https://www.makevotesmatter.org.uk/
mrtibbles, you sound like a bitter remainer and Labour member who failed to listen to the electorate over the past 4 elections and still hasn't come to terms with why you keep losing.
I believe in democracy unfortunately we aren't getting it at present and from the present shower that are in government https://www.electoral-reform.org.uk/
Over the past few hundred years, our society and democracy have developed and changed beyond recognition. However, our voting system has failed to keep pace. We believe that First Past the Post has no place in a modern democracy, and should be replaced by a system of Proportional Representation https://www.makevotesmatter.org.uk/first-past-the-post
Over recent months, we have heard a number of government ministers, including the Prime Minster, claim that the 2016 EU referendum was the “largest” or “biggest” “democratic exercise” in the UK’s history.
This is not correct, if you interpret “largest democratic exercise” as the number of people participating in a vote. 33,551,983 people cast a vote in the referendum—which was 72% of all people registered to vote.
The Brexiteers have less freedom and opportunity for everyone , they were conned by the now now exposed lies and innuendo, unfortunately some of them refuse to accept and admit the truth just like our government.
https://fullfact.org/europe/eu-referendum-not-largest-democratic-exercise/
"The battle starts again," former deputy leader of the Conservative Party Lord Michael Heseltine told Andrew Pierce in the wake of Brexit coming into force."With a chapter closed last night, a new chapter opens," Lord Heseltine added, reminding Andrew of a stipulation in the Brexit deal which allows a review process of four years could lead to the UK rejoining the EU.
https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/andrew-pierce/brexit-lord-heseltine-campaign-to-rejoin-eu/
"The last opinion poll I saw showed that that narrow Brexit vote has been replaced by a 10 point lead for those who took the opposite view. I agree therefore that it is unfinished business."
Lord Heseltine cited figures from the government’s own Office for Budget Responsibility, suggesting that leaving the EU would reduce GDP by about 4 per cent in comparison with the Covid-19 pandemic reducing it by a further 2 per cent.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-michael-heseltine-b1950601.html
"First of all it is up to us who believe in a closely knit relationship with Europe to use the same determination Brexiteers did to disrupt the European partnership."
"We want it back, and the only logical answer is to argue for that decision."
Mr Cummings also said that he and his Vote Leave colleagues had “taken over” the Conservative Party in order to “try and bend it to something that’s different”, in order not only to deliver EU withdrawal but also to “disrupt” the UK’s power structures.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/dominic-cummings-brexit-bus-johnson-b1887457.html
Wasted public money on destroying the environment on the environment!
https://policy.friendsoftheearth.uk/insight/opportunity-costs-hs2
Hi Tbbs ,good to see you are holding fast to your opinions and long may the freedom to voice them be open to you in this democracy, unlike a lot of Countries in this world.
However a few points of mine.
The Brexit referendum . First a democratic vote implies 3 options for all .
1) To vote in the affirmative
2) To vote in the negative.
3) AND MOST IMPORTANTLY THE RIGHT NOT TO VOTE AT ALL.
Next point. The European Union is the most undemocratic form of governance in the Western world. The Commission which rules the Union is an unelected body which cannot be removed by the European populace . Agreed the Union has a Parliament but the reins of power are held within the commission and have recently taken hold of the reins as to distribution of EU funds.
It is of no matter whether you like or dislike Trump but the American voter had its say at the ballot box. A similar situation will arise over Boris Johnson's tenure in a few years time and I would refer you to point number 3 above.
The very kindest regards and thanks for your massive contribution to this board.
Bob
bobliz35 : Your point 3 in some countries is unlawful, the voting population are required to vote by law.
I personally am split on this, as I believe I should be able to not vote, but there are people who have sacrificed their lives for the right to vote.
ATB
AlmostDone, People sacrificed their lives not to vote but for democracy vs "right to vote", As such, democracy is also the freedom to not vote as stated by bobliz.
Hi Ik,
I believe Australia is a democracy but:
Australia – The Australian Electoral Commission states: "It is compulsory by law for all eligible Australian citizens to enrol and vote in federal elections, by-elections and referendums." Introduced for state elections in Queensland in 1915, excluding Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander (Indigenous) Australians.
As stated above they have not the freedom not to vote.
Almostdone sorry I thought we was talking about the UK and historic UK Civil wars.
Sure there are other democracies that are compulsory but I don't live in them so couldn't care less how they see democracy :)
Australia is a democracy.?
Not in my definition.
Democracy implies one (voter) has a robust choice of parties, and a party that best represents one's interests and values. This has not been the case for several decades in Oz, and I suspect elsewhere.
Whilst appreciating the history of Australia's development from comprising (very) large groups of criminals from the UK justice system, and a group of the most miserable people on earth (thanks Williams Dampier), so miserable in fact that despite living here for 60,000 years, the good few had to decalre the place Terra Nullius!? ... it is hard to consider that Oz does not have a proper representative government elected via a democratic process (lets not talk about gerry mandering, pork barreling, corruption etc)
But, democracy is a great idea!
the skeptical gnome
Hi Mr Gnome ,
I agree entirely Mr Gnome, what goes on at a local level in UK government is bad enough with the misinformation and ward boundary manipulation but this is much worse at central government level, the Tories now are manipulating constituency boundaries and watering down the powers of the regulator (Electoral commission).
The Brexit campaign cited the undemocratic way the way the commissioners are elected, (by the member states elected MEP's) in some ways this may be more democratic more than the way the most senior civil servants (Permanent secretaries) those with real power are appointed which is still down to the prime minister and very can be dependent on the old pals network or the color of your public school tie
https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/explainers/permanent-secretaries
9 December 2019
The European Commission isn't directly elected by citizens in the EU. But the President of the Commission needs to be approved by Members of the European Parliament (MEPs) who are elected by voters from member states. MEPs also vote on whether to approve Commissioners who are nominated by governments of member states.
'Democratic' means different things to different people,
https://fullfact.org/europe/eu-facts-behind-claims-democracy/
https://fullfact.org/election-2019/ask-fullfact-eu-commission-unelected/
Our constituency is unfortunate in having a particularly lazy Tory MP who was chosen to stand after his predecessor ((Tory)former laedrr of the council was forcedto stand down due to selling off punlic assets at a knok down price and also arranging arrbging Publivc Works Boards loans of £10 million for a local business man forthrough the council.
The business man got away with the £10 million and the MP avoided prosecution and bnow works in Tory central office!
Onr new MP an EU sceptip chosen by central office and elected for some reason lives 130 miles away and never appears to anwer any letters for his constiuents!
Sorry some typo's 'below due to me posting to soon, but you know what I mean, still haven't got used to this awful Windows 10, seems to have a mind of its own Microsoft want's us all to subscribe annually TO "Cloud Based services" , not good for the environment as the servers use huge amounts of energy in comparison to making a once off purchase and installation of your own software DVD .
I am going to uninstall all the cloud based Windows 10 Office apps and reinstall my own Office 2016 DVD.