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Please stop ruining things with your facts Aus. I’m really not sure why you would think opinions based on truth are better than just made up s##t.
Aus
Churchill mentioned the prospect of a new health service briefly in his first broadcast on peacetime reconstruction in March 1943.
Fact
After consultations with the medical profession,the White Paper, A National Health Service, was published in February 1944 and based on Beveridge’s principles.
Fact
Longtime investor - I hate to keep doing this, it’s a bit boring even for me now.
Again nonsense, obviously just talk before actually being created
So the actual facts are
when Nye Bevan’s comprehensive national health service bill was voted into law in 1946, Sir Winston Churchill, Sir Anthony Eden, Harold Macmillan, Rab Butler and other notable Tories voted against it – including Mr Willink himself, who had by then proposed a hostile amendment to the bill.
Yes that is historical, verifiable fact.
Aus
''Sooooooo, the nhs was born how?....... ''
Winston Churchill wanted to implement an NHS when in the wartime coalition government.
Labour elected in 1945 introduced Winston Churchill's National Health Service Bill
My personal favourite of anti-Britishness that gets confused people juices flowing
“UNELECTED JUDGES”. Who are, some how enemies of the state
Is that 1930’s facist Germany or 2016 Britain
..... it’s both, both right wing dogma.
Facts, honesty and decency...sounds like a good system to me Aus. Oh well. At least we'll still have the royal family to look up to.
Talking about british values, which I thought were truth based & decent
U.K. immigration 20% from EU 80% from no EU
Because you all know what you voted for, you will of course know, U.K. government has full complete control over non EU immigration...... They can also control immigration from the EU (like Germany does) but choose not to.
Through borders which according to liars don’t exist, even though voters convinced of this can see migrants stuck in Calais & risking their lives to avoid border checks which according to Leave don’t exist.....
Leaver voters could of course asked themselves why these guys didn’t just buy a one way ferry ticket?
When like me you see a nation convinced of this nonsense, it’s not difficult to understand the scale of deception and the willingness of silly people to reward this behaviour with their hard won vote.
Read through these posts & you need to ask yourself where does this end, where will you children and grand children be in 20 years?
Exactly.
...political manoeuvres designed to lead British politics into a trump like pit being welcomed by people who think they’re buying a return to ‘good old British values and way of life’.
Mytton - so you don’t understand what a Marxist is or a socialist
Sooooooo, the nhs was born how?....... from pure, uncontrolled capitalism?
Even rich benefactors in the USA who help pay for access to education, health and art for poor people is a form of socialism
So your problem is? Exactly? You don’t like the nhs? State run education? Or is it charity or philanthropy?
Dominic Cummings & Steve Bannon of course. People on here repeating their propaganda think I / we support Corbyn and his politics. For me that’s correct.
I just don’t support political manoeuvres which are designed to lower british politics into a trump like pit.
How many times do you let your actual government make a fool out of your vote before showing them they can’t govern like that.
I made no comment. I simply referred to McDonnell's own words.
He said he is a Marxist and welcomed the global financial crisis. If you are cool with that then fine.
And the last word goes to the man himself...
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/john-mcdonnell-caught-video-welcoming-8842988
Dominic Cummings et al would be so pleased with the comments on this site. All the focus on trashing an opposition who are never going to have any real say and will most likely implode following the election due to their own naivety and extremities, creating a highly effective distraction from what’s going on in the real world.
Mytton - do you really want me to find some of the disgraceful (of all kinds) from Tory mps / cabinet minsters
I don’t know where the news is, he’s subscribed to left wing politics, why on earth would he not take satisfaction from watching right wing practices fail?
Did you hear the laughter, the audience could see the irony in his comments
Now go research who wins when the U.K. / EU economy falters & likely outcomes.
And if you dont like the D Mail here it is in the Mirror...
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/john-mcdonnell-caught-video-welcoming-8842988
Mytton - I think you need to stop pretending left right insidious American or Russian agendas will all look to take advantage of economic down turns.
You’re failing to recognise for example Brexit is the golden goose for all these things, it’s the sore through which these infections are fighting to gain influence
In this case, there’s no doubt what so ever, Brexit is a right wing agenda. Or at least hijacked by a right wing agenda
Apart from Putin who looks forward to any kind of opportunity to sow division and disruption.
The simple test is how many flag swastika waving lunatic groups do not support Brexit ? The answer is none, how many openly racist far right groups not waving swastikas do not support Brexit ?
Again answer is none
The anti socialism propaganda from America raging similar over exaggerations about Corbyn fail to understand British socialism is incompatible with for instance racism. If you are a liberal socialist, which labour stands for racism is like meat eating inside a vegan group, the two things are entirely incompatible. You can not be both things at the same time,
I’m sure in years to come we will laugh at the hysterical nonsense most of you appear to adopt & how obvious some of these liars selling it to you were, they contradict themselves.
The reason why I won’t vote conservative is a British government should be above such things, to find them complicit is frankly not worthy of my vote, it’s horrifying.
Listen to McDonnell in the video clip...
He says in his own words he is a Marxist and welcomes the global economic crisis...
I dont think it can be clearer than that.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1330073/John-McDonnell-waited-financial-crisis-generation.html
Mytton, don’t go citing daily mail as news worthy, you’re making fool out of yourself.
It’s spent last 20 years putting the fear of god up people silly enough to not realise, who & why.
Mcdonnell states he is a Marxist and welcomes the global economic crisis as an opportunity. His own words..
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1330073/John-McDonnell-waited-financial-crisis-generation.html
Mytton - so do right wing fascists (see Germany 1930’s). European Economic disruption offers Putin help too & trump. There’s some good reasons & benefactors of Brexit straight off the bat
Lunacy? Dont you think Marxists thrive on economic chaos as a means to attaining power?
Listen to Mcdonnell's own words welcoming global economic crisis
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1330073/John-McDonnell-waited-financial-crisis-generation.html
AW - Corbyn is a terrorist? Last night you were celebrating his imminent death & day before wanting to shoot him.
Is there any part of you that thinks you might have been groomed, by insidious propaganda, 2 steps from being a concentration guard. Or is this you, all you & nothing but you?
To someone like me who treats these claims with contempt, it’s very worrying
So Corbyn being a life long campaigner against any form of violence (from good or bad) doesn’t make you think each of these provide an opportunity to distort the actual truth?
I’ve never seen him quoted as delivering hate speech or encouraging violence of any kind, I’ve only ever seen him arguing for no violence & stop violence on both sides. As I’ve said naive, silly but not a terrorist or supporter of terrorism.
I think shareholders stand a better chance with boris
I agree, Corbyn is a scumbag. I won't lie, never been a labour supporter but then again, I'm hardy a devout Tory either. Go by the person and yes, Boris is a blubbering fool and I don't just him but Corbyn is pretty much a terrorist. Blair was a dodgy mofo too but funnily enough, that's when the BT share price was at it's peak. Nothing against Brown, he just seemed a bit out of his depth. Hopefully the share price improves under Boris, but no guarantees it will. With Corbyn in charge, we'd be doomed.
Hahahaha lunacy, in a couple of paragraphs. Quick search on line @ I can see the ridiculous sites & sources you have been lead down. You do realise Facebook profiles you and then floods you with things it thinks you, I’d love to see your profile
Iran (one of Corbyn's favourite governments) have just shut down national access to the net. This is what will happen when Corbyn takes control of BT. And your pathetic ****ty, worthless bonds you'll hold in return for BT equity will become worthless.
Marxist Labour want political control of BT for political ends. They have no interest in expanding access to those not connected out of some form of social concern about exclusion. Labour's concern is ENTIRELY POLITICAL
I simply want voters to wake up and understand the existential danger of Corbyn and his Marxist thugs. Jo Brand's (still a Labour member) joke about throwing acid in Farage's face is a taster of what will happen if this type of person gets into power. They believe in violence and threats of violence for political ends an to encourage self-censorship to promote obedience. Hitler adopted this tactic in 1929. Learn from history
I believe in democracy and allowing extremists the opportunity to be 'hoisted by their own petard'
apologies for the rant but I fear for the UK should this Marxist poison ever gain power