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A stock answer from Billy Baylan with a touch of UNESCO seasoning.
"Answer to question 2020/21: 2797 by Mattias Karlsson in Luleå (M)
Processing concession for Kallak
Mattias Karlsson has asked me what measures I am prepared to take to ensure that a government decision on a processing concession for Kallak is not further delayed.
The application for a processing concession for Kallak K no. 1 contains an extensive document that reflects the complex issues that the case includes. It is of great importance that the government assesses its cases from all aspects and ensures that decisions are made after adequate processing. The preparation of a case includes both handling measures and is reflected in incoming and outgoing letters as well as internal handling elements such as legal analyzes, considerations and assessments. All of this can affect the time required at different stages of the preparation of a government case. However, the starting point for the Government's handling of administrative matters is always that it should take place quickly, efficiently and without compromising legal certainty.
Legal analyzes and considerations have resulted in the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) being given the opportunity to comment on the possible impact of the applied processing concession Kallak K No. 1 on the Laponia World Heritage Site.
Stockholm, May 18, 2021"
Ibrahim Baylan
Who Mr Money is or what motive he would have for providing this information I am not at all bothered to verify...I've taken it as read and you can take it or leave it. It's exactly the reply I expected.
Much obliged to you Mr Money.
Answer to question 2020/21: 2797 by Mattias Karlsson in Luleå (M)
Processing concession for Kallak
Mattias Karlsson has asked me what measures I am prepared to take to ensure that a government decision on a processing concession for Kallak is not further delayed.
The application for a processing concession for Kallak K no. 1 contains an extensive document that reflects the complex issues that the case includes. It is of great importance that the government assesses its cases from all aspects and ensures that decisions are made after adequate processing. The preparation of a case includes both handling measures and is reflected in incoming and outgoing letters as well as internal handling elements such as legal analyzes, considerations and assessments. All of this can affect the time required at different stages of the preparation of a government case. However, the starting point for the Government's handling of administrative matters is always that it should take place quickly, efficiently and without compromising legal certainty.
Legal analyzes and considerations have resulted in the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) being given the opportunity to comment on the possible impact of the applied processing concession Kallak K No. 1 on the Laponia World Heritage Site.
Stockholm, May 18, 2021
Ibrahim Baylan
Thanks Xeno..we're like minded. :-)
Re "By playing along you are eliminating the options the goverment can take against you. for example the goverment pokes you with a stick and when you show your teeth like a rabid dog the goverment can say, look he is dangrous we gotta stop you."
And if you always turn the other cheek, you get very sore cheeks.
Point missed xeno. The adage can of course be a good thing or a bad thing but it rarely switches between the two
Well if that old adage is true then whats the point of working out? or running? does not that increase the muscles or improve your stamina?
And the point to mr lbj that if the kallak mine deposit of 33 billion pounds was known to the swedes during the 30s beowulf would never have gotten the permit to search in the first place. there are alot of places where ppl think deposits are but alas it shows very often very small amounts and those prospekting projects costs ALOT and not many ppl can put their money where their mouth is.
Im no expert but i dont think blameing a ceo is the right thing to do when its a green socialsit goverment working against the company. it has been a socialist ruleing goverment since the 70s with the occasional few years with a pro company goverment. Playing hardball wont speed up the process or increase the likelihood of it going in your favor.
by being patient and not going away is a better path to take because it shows the authorites that you are a serious actor and not irresponsible. By playing along you are eliminating the options the goverment can take against you. for example the goverment pokes you with a stick and when you show your teeth like a rabid dog the goverment can say, look he is dangrous we gotta stop you. but in this case beowulf is getting poked ALOT for a long time and still no teeth have been shown and the goverment cant use the dangerous card against them.
A big theroy on the net was that one of reason beo does not get a yes is because it was not enough swedish shareholders in the company. wich is an apsurd thought. it does not matter what nationality the company shareholders have the goverment will get their taxes either way but still even kurt mentions it just to apease. One of the biggest employers in sweden are owned by china and they get every favorable treatment possible from the goverment, a lot more so then the swedish owned companies. Diplomacy with brute force with a list of demands is not a good option for companies to take and kurt knows this.
The berst course of action in this scenario is to just simply wait what the unesco report says. if its positive and says it does not impact the laponia then a aproval from the goverment is the only option left for them, no more excuses.
And worst case scenario if its negative and unesco finds someting that they find wrong with the mine and the goverment says no then kurt could take them to the court and explain the boliden scenario plus show that there are already mines both old and currently operating closer to the laponia border then the kallak mine and get rekitified that way.
Re "Eight years + waiting for a decision is too long and everyone agrees with that including The Minister but we're not alone, no new mining project has been given the go ahead in the last ten years."
Suzy. Is it possible that the reason no other mines have been permitted, simply that being so determined to deny BEM the permit, the government position would be untenable to then grant other mines. Nothing else will be passed until Kallak is sorted one way or the other.
Suzy. Not sure it's relevant how long I've been in BEM. Was first brought to my attention by a work colleague over 10 years ago who saw great prospects but saw it as a very long hold before being in the money. He certainly wasn't wrong there. I actually invested 4 or 5 years ago as it happens.
What is relevant however is the old adage that if you always do the same thing, you always get the same result.
Baylan knows this and plays on it to the max.
Suzy2,
“ and KB only manages one of them “
He is not managing at all. He is happy to spectate and fire off the occasional email. You say he has delivered. He only has to deliver one thing - the concession, and he has not delivered it, has he.
Blind faith and wishful thinking is ineffective.
I hope you manage to get back there Roller. Sounds lovely.
Ibjj...Permitting is always the big risk in a mining project, you know that as well as I do. I'm happy to agree to differ but I'll stick to my own opinion if you don't mind. Eight years + waiting for a decision is too long and everyone agrees with that including The Minister but we're not alone, no new mining project has been given the go ahead in the last ten years...and KB only manages one of them.
To do ‘with’ Budge. ffs
it should be interesting because of the people on it?
Is all to do Budge, and it matters to us all! Everything else we see and hear is all Bull!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Everyone is talking to every other player.. If not, why not? $Billions are on offer! Imo only…. atb
Suzy2,
I have to take issue with your last post. “ Kurt can only deliver the best potential mine project there could be and I think he’s done that”
1. The SGU identified the Kallak deposit before WW2. Nothing to do with Budge.
2. The exploitation application was submitted in April 2013. Nothing to do with Budge.
3. Almost 6 years in post and he has not progressed the application in any tangible way.
4. There are 4 times the number of shares in issue compared to when he took up his post.
He has delivered nothing other than dilution and amateurish presentations when he’s needed funds.
His performance has to be measured against expectation, and he has failed for far too long, with minimal prospect of any change to the current situation.
I think he's playing the party line with the full knowledge of the PM why would he do otherwise.
3card...How long have you been in this...I've been in for over ten years and I haven't decided yet to give it up and that's my choice...it isn't a matter of no progress, it's a matter of no decision and only the Government can deliver that. Kurt can only deliver the best potential mine project there could be and I think he's done that.
Eric I just turned 51 last Friday and semi retired now, I just need a little rise and I'm fully retired back to living in Palm Beach as I did the last 23 years.. all those nibbles better pay off soonish..
3card, you are possibly right. Lol. But it depends how Kurt worded the letter. It would surely have to reflect Baylan's unwillingness to engage and cooperate with BEM. That kind of thing. No joy from the Minister, no option but to move the matter on to the PM.
Only my view.
Roller, I think your weekly nibbles are good if you can afford to, because it should prove to be a sound strategy over time. The problem is that we don't know over how much time. Lol.
It's like Ker-Plunk this, only one stick left but the marbles still haven't bloody dropped.
Had a shock when I saw 42 posts registered today. Thought for a second Kurt had finished doing the crossword in the loo and got off his 'arris and done something.
Disagree on that one Eric. That would merely give the PM and Baylan an excuse to delay matters further while they decide who the letter should have actually gone to, namely Baylan
"It has to play itself out, there's no point really agonising about it...it is what it is."
Suzy, just as a matter of interest at what point of no progress would you see yourself moving to a more sceptical or critical position?
Had a shock when I saw 42 posts registered today. Thought for a second Kurt had finished doing the crossword in the loo and got off his 'arris and done something.