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RE : VAST + PREM - Everything I have ever done in Africa has gone wrong
It's not new!!
There’s a reason we are seeing gigafactories coming online for lithium batteries!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium%E2%80%93air_battery
In March 2013, Phinergy[5] released a video demonstration of an electric car using aluminium–air cells driven 330 km using a special cathode and potassium hydroxide.[6] On May 27, 2013, the Israeli channel 10 evening news broadcast showed a car with Phinergy battery in the back, claiming 2,000 kilometres (1,200 mi) range before replacement of the aluminium anodes is necessary.[7]
I don’t see any partnerships with global companies considering the technology was showcased six years ago!
http://www.phinergy.com/applications/
Home charging a Tesla model 3 is around 3.5p per mile at 14p/Kwh, some energy providers are doing plans that have EV charging rates off-peak at under 5p/Kwh, of course, the long-term plan is to have a smart grid and so perhaps sub 5p/Kwh will be the norm.
Add to that the life of a Tesla battery of 300,000 miles and newer batteries expecting to be around 1,000,000 miles makes it very difficult to see aluminium air batteries replacing lithium
it is probably yet another lifestyle research project, surviving on grants........
Once the reaction is started you cannot stop it so the fuel cell depletes whilst the car is not used. Now if they can get the small enough so you can have multiple in the car and switch between them, that could be interesting. But the cost and infastructure of replacements would need to make sense. And of course car designs incorporating to make use of them and ease of exchange.
You would of thought fossil fuel companies like shell would be all over this. a magic liquid that is dispensed into a aluminum cell just before being inserted in vehicle. its a continuation of their business model and the special liquid could be stored in todays undergound tanks at petrol stations.
it makes lots of sense for lorry's and delivery vans, something where the cell would be swapped out every day and reside on depots overnight with the infrastructure to support them.
yes, 7p per mile is expensive against lithium battery pack costs, although I do have some concerns with the accuracy of the article:
In a Tesla, Jackson says, the battery costs about £30,000. An aluminium-air fuel cell that would power the same car for longer would cost just £5,000.
Tesla Puts Price on Model 3 Battery Module Replacement Around $5000-$7000. Elon Musk suggests battery modules will cost between $5000-$7000
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These will need a lot more improving at 7p per mile against 3p per mile for lithium
Lithium may well not be the future ..
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7592485/Father-eight-invents-electric-car-battery-drivers-1-500-miles-without-charging-it.html
the problem is that Vast and Prem are in Africa and both have been twitter pumped.
would not want to be out this over the weekend I have a feeling news is on its way on Monday. Same with Vast and Prem although they have missed a self announced signing this week it’s looking likely to be on Monday, the usual lemmings are selling presenting great buying opps on all 3 shares.