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I'd hope your second paragraph (with the question when will lockdowns end) can be answered by your third paragraph (therapeutics that work, hopefully including, or primarily even, Synairgen). I don't like your first paragraph though (and I hope the 12 recommends are not because of it) because I don't like the logic that says the deaths don't matter as long as there is enough capacity in the NHS to cope with admissions (maybe you want to clarify that's not what you mean).
@Docdaneeka
I work at a private hospital in York and we share information across the locality.
The PM made it very clear people should not think it’s over. That’s the right message.
Part of the strategy is to force a peak prior to winter in the hope that we don’t have or have a much smaller peak during winter when the expectation is that other respiratory viruses will hit off again which on their own could be worse than prior winters excl 2020/21. That’ll be a double whammy. So it makes sense what they’re trying to do.
I understand the hesitancy, however we must learn to live with the virus and in the process figure out what works and what not through real world scenarios. The road will have bumps, but that’s how you learn. We can’t continue to live based on assumptions and use that to enforce restrictions. The British public won’t tolerate that anyway.
We may have some tough days ahead, but we’ll get to the other side. Just enjoy the ‘now’ and be optimistic. Don’t fret about what may or may not.
By the end of Sep almost 90% of adults would’ve had their 2nd jab. That’s great.
Agree Matterhorn that this is good, my point though was that a lot of the last 3 days have been filled with talk of the pandemic ending (in the UK), based on nothing more than dwindling + testing cases reported. I think it's premature to say we're heading into the clear just yet. Unless there is a sustained trend in numbers, it is too way early to call. The lack of quarantine at borders from next Monday risks establishing a breeding ground of new variants emerging. Will our vaccination programme stand up to that? No one knows yet. Personally I don't think we can say we've seen a sign of the end of the UK pandemic until a few weeks into September, when millions of schools children are back in close contact and holiday makers are home from far flung shores. Perhaps I'm being too cautious, but we've been down this road before with the "it's all over" brigade.
It’s not unusual to see higher case numbers reported on Wednesdays and Thursdays, even by a few thousand. It's too early to tell whether the increase is due to a processing overhang or the start of a genuine increase.
With regard to hospitalisations. Hospitalisations follow the same trend as cases albeit on a week lag basis. As of 26 Jul, five days into the current week, the week-on-week growth in hospitalisations for England have shown a decline for the third week in a row. The WoW growth was 13% as of 26 Jul whereas the previous week was 31%, before that 42% and before that at a peak of 55%. This is good, not bad.
Sajid is a clever chap being a wee bit disingenuous to suggest no one knows where this going. He knows the experts will be telling him it is not suddenly nose diving this wave has some way to go yet.
Thanks for that Doc83, I thought I had misunderstood. Great to see you still hanging on in here.
Well..... it appears positive cases (as well as hospitilizations) are on the rise again, as of today - this latest snip from The Guardian : https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/28/end-to-quarantine-in-england-for-double-jabbed-is-nailed-on-for-16-august
"The latest Covid data, published on Wednesday, showed 27,734 people testing positive across the UK – up by 4,000 from a day earlier. The increase in cases followed a week of sharp declines that had brought the number of new positive test results down by more than half from 54,674 on 17 July, just before most restrictions were relaxed.
Sajid Javid has said “no one really knows” what trajectory the Covid pandemic will take in the weeks ahead, as new cases across the UK rose after seven days of consecutive declines."
Apologies, I should have clarified, I lay the blame squarely at the government for forward planning, or rather the lack of. The doctors and nurses have my absolute respect.
Doc83 Struggling with what you mean ,‘I have no sympathy for hospitals being at capacity, ‘ ?
Surely the actual people staffing these hospitals who would look after you or I have zero control over the conditions in which they are expected to work in or do you mean something else ?
I have no sympathy anymore for hospitals being at capacity. There’s been plenty of time to plan for these eventualities. The nightingale hospitals were put up at vast cost and never used.
As for the potential reintroduction of lockdowns, where does this end? Virtually the entire country (certainly those at risk) have been vaccinated. As someone else mentioned, I do not think people are going to accept being jabbed every other month with another booster.
Back to Synairgen… this, or a similar treatment, will surely have to be the way to go. I’ve been a relatively long term holder and am nervously excited for the next update. It would also be a great success story for the UK.
York Covid ward is at capacity
Hospital cases are rising even though case numbers (based on + tests) are decreasing because less people are testing. The proof of that lies in rising hospitalisations. I don't know anyone wth kids who is testing daily now that schools are out (prior to end of year a lot were mandated to do so). So many were put off having their 'freedom' and holidays curtailed by the Pingdemic that they simply stopped testing and reporting. It's not rocket science. If hospitalisations continue to rise as they are, falling case numbers are a 'blip' and not a trend. Even No 1 are cautious about calling this a pandemic remission. I'm nowhere near convinced this is over. Let's wait and see.