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As with so many things this will become clearer as scientists gather the information they need to make judgement calls and then as ever we get many different opinions and foresights on the very same subject.
Been waking up early (for me) at 7.00 ready for the days first RNSs, and am really hoping for an RNS from Scancell stating that the first patient from the MOD1 trial has been dosed. Not convinced that alone would make any significant change in our SP, but, there will be many others other than us who will be noting that .since the early days of anticipation and excitement since the serendipitous discovery of Moditope. Goodnight guys.
so... given that no one knows.. how is it unbalanced? I am saying it as likely they will come down as go up. How can you say that is incorrect?
Konar - just teasing out that “Every bit as likely that we will see a reduction in ICU beds as a consequence” is a little unbalanced, given no one knows.
I'm not sure what point you are trying to prove to me that I haven't already said!?
The OP said ICU bed numbers will be going up - i made the point that it as likely that they may come down. I have said their are early observational reports that symptoms are milder, but we don't have sufficient data to know that yet. And now these are the arguments you are using back at me? What is your point?
Konar -there are loads that can be found in less than 5 seconds.
https://www.macleans.ca/news/omicron-variant-will-likely-be-worse-than-delta-according-to-early-research/
To Rats point. No one knows - yet.
No - nothing to suggest it is worse then delta.. but this update from Fauci
On the question of severity, "it almost certainly is not more severe than Delta," said Fauci.
"There is some suggestion that it might even be less severe, because when you look at some of the cohorts that are being followed in South Africa, the ratio between the number of infections and the number of hospitalizations seems to be less than with Delta."
Konar - nothing on Google then to suggest that it is not milder?
@Chelsea11.. no thats not correct either. There is observational data that suggests it is milder - this is legitimate and relevant to report. We just don't have the large scale sample size to say it definitively yet.
Let's face it, everyone is feeling in the dark at the moment. The exact nature of omicron is not sure, and underlying that is presumably the fear that a highly transmissible variant could appear again but with way higher potential to kill. This virus will continue to mutate as nature helps it evolve into something insuperable. That's the nature of the thing. So here's hoping the n protein attack works, and if it does then Lindy may become a household name.
Ok Konar, thanks. So in reality then, no substance behind those “reports” whatsoever.
I don't have a source "confirming" it - which is why I said it is "reported" to be milder symptoms. If you type "omicron mild" into google you will find many news stories covering this.
Konar - what is your source confirming that Omicron infection results in milder symptoms please?
What we do know is that Scancell built a solid Platform in Immunobody and it worked extremely well in the initial SCIB1 Trial.
Therefore we should have confidence in Prof. Durrant and her team to have built both Covidity and Moditope to the same exacting standards.
Chester.
If Omicron fills up the ICU beds it puts more pressure on the powers that be to sort it out and make provision to fight against unknown future variants, so more potential emphasis on Covidity. If Omicron doesn't fill the ICU beds then Moditope can continue with less potential hinderance. The benefits of a small bio with a broad appeal there. Sort of win/win, rather than one trick pony, although as has been pointed out today there is always a significant risk of trials not going to plan. Thank goodness for astute and balanced posters.
Omicron is reported to have milder symptoms and is becoming the dominant variant. Every bit as likely that we will see a reduction in ICU beds as a consequence.
beds not bends!
With the increase in Covid cases and the Omicron variant it is likely ICU bends will become even more difficult to get hold of. Is this likely to delay the start of the MODI 1 trial as I note there is a requirement to have an ICU bed available just in case. If so what timeframe are we looking at. MODI 1 was due to have FPD this quarter, time is now against that, could be spring now if they do not get a move on. I hope that it not the case. IMO.