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Re "If there was a cost saving then he should be mentioning it."
What a load of testicles. Any cost saving on packaging would be minor and make next to no difference to our cashflow, so I'd file that sort of info under "Excuse me if I don't give a damn" !
Admittedly, it's vaguely interesting to discuss the minor points of running a retail business, especially to those of us where it's not the day job, but FF+ is pretty much immaterial to Provexis as a whole, and packaging costs within FF+ are a small part of immaterial, so expecting Ford to discuss it, especially via a specific RNS or even a press release is nuts.
It might get a mention in a para in an Annual Report, but I sincerely hope it doesn't, because it'd just be filler.
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Number of Ordinary Shares held
ordinary Shares as % of issued share capital
Stuart Lucas and family 185,819,678 9.02%
In theory, unless Lucas and family have added since his last holdings RNS, he'll have dropped under 9%.
Chances are, as he'd only need to have added roughly half a million since the 6th August to stay above 9%, then he has added, so he won't have had to inform the company of a movement across a threshold.
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There's very little to support this share and the BOD are useless IMO only of course! Just try to use the occasional spike to make some money. There is supposed to be a trading update soon but the results are also very near so all a bit strange. It will just be the usual empty statements as per the last 10 years.
I am amazed at this share, no results nearly nine months and goes up and then starts to go down, gives you a false hope ,after 11 years we may see the light and then you heart sinks when it starts to drop ,its a very sad
Gixer.. If they are producing in the US, as well as in Europe, then perhaps US is boxes/plastic tubs and they are looking to switch Europe onto the new plastic boxes or offering it as an alternative.
IF would only switch if made to or there was a saving on cost. If there was a cost saving then he should be mentioning it.
https://www.provexis.org/shareholder-information/major-shareholders/
Anyone have any views on the number of small trades going through? £46, £15, £14...
Only 3 of the last 19 trades have been more than £1k....
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"why would PXS instigate the change"
I would say that it is probably the cheaper option and is more sturdy for going through the post. I have had a few crushed boxes in my time.
"don't quite understand why Circuace states theirs is made in the US"
Maybe it is. The Japanese version also shows made in US.
https://static.wixstatic.com/media/0601c4_a269d89a72f24999b720f00559f82dde~mv2.jpg/v1/fill/w_675,h_846,al_c,q_85,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01/0601c4_a269d89a72f24999b720f00559f82dde~mv2.webp
The German product (Optiflow?) was in this type of packaging prior to Provexis launching. Preferred it, and may have mentioned that in conversation. Has to be more recyclable surely.
I see your point Gixer but why would PXS instigate the change... Its also new stock so other may follow later.
I still don't quite understand why Circuace states theirs is made in the US...
Sorry Bella, I disagree. The packaging will be the choice of pxs not dsm. There are a few ff+ Omega products for sale throughout the world. Well same product different seller and packaging. Circuace being one example.
http://www.circuace.com.hk/about.html
Gixer...yes J&J do fill Provexis Amazon orders. PXS just use Amazon as a marketing/sales point.
That's one of the reasons I put him onto J&J in the first place.
The packaging change was probably instigated by DSM and whoever does the packaging. FF+ is a DSM concept and available to others as a Fruitflow + another ingredient mix but only Provexis can actually use the Fruitflow name. From what I can see the concept hasn't really taken off.
I got the impression the previous non-exex DSM guy has signed up to IFs desire to copy all things Alteronon and he helped push through the idea of a FF+ range.
If Bi-health are looking at a FF+ range then perhaps the new packaging has been introduced with them in mind too.
These are a generic plastic containers used by loads of other supplements. It just has the fruitflow design on it.
I always thought the main reason for this new style of package being used these days is that it's loads better for going through letter boxes as the packaging is much tougher and narrower.
... as opposed to stock availability. I have just received my first repeat order in the new pack (145066) and I'm not sure if I prefer the new style or not. Retrieving the padded envelope from the letterbox caused the capsules inside to rattle about loudly, and when I opened the container I saw straight away that it was less than half full . Why would they design a container two and a half times bigger than necessary to hold thirty capsules? Or is it just about having sufficient surface area to display the info on the rear label?
Bella, I don't know this but had assumed that amazon orders were done through James and James.
https://www.ecommercefulfilment.com/en/order-fulfilment/amazon-fulfilment/
On to the 4th style of packaging now.
Either way, there's no listing on Amazon currently so any customer looking to repeat order from Amazon will be disappointed.
It was also my understanding that the original oblong box was changed to the square box to facilitate likes of H&B for on shelf display.
Unless it's changed, it was my understanding it was Provexis selling via Amazon not Amazon buying from Provexis.
I've contacted H&B too so will wait & see what they come back with before going to PXS and asking them what's going on.
So here's the feedback from Amazon:
Hafsa: I understand that the capsules are so important in the present situation. However, the product was out of stock hence it got removed from the listing, as soon as it becomes available we will make sure it is displayed on the website.
Me: OK thanks, any idea when that will be?
Hafsa: I'm sorry but i don't want give you any false information but you will be able see the product when it becomes available
What is the reason they are out stock?