REMINDER: Our user survey closes on Friday, please submit your responses here.
London South East prides itself on its community spirit, and in order to keep the chat section problem free, we ask all members to follow these simple rules. In these rules, we refer to ourselves as "we", "us", "our". The user of the website is referred to as "you" and "your".
By posting on our share chat boards you are agreeing to the following:
The IP address of all posts is recorded to aid in enforcing these conditions. As a user you agree to any information you have entered being stored in a database. You agree that we have the right to remove, edit, move or close any topic or board at any time should we see fit. You agree that we have the right to remove any post without notice. You agree that we have the right to suspend your account without notice.
Please note some users may not behave properly and may post content that is misleading, untrue or offensive.
It is not possible for us to fully monitor all content all of the time but where we have actually received notice of any content that is potentially misleading, untrue, offensive, unlawful, infringes third party rights or is potentially in breach of these terms and conditions, then we will review such content, decide whether to remove it from this website and act accordingly.
Premium Members are members that have a premium subscription with London South East. You can subscribe here.
London South East does not endorse such members, and posts should not be construed as advice and represent the opinions of the authors, not those of London South East Ltd, or its affiliates.
Hi pocupico,
…."What sinister agenda is Greta the face of ? …"
This one ?
https://standpointmag.co.uk/issues/june-2019/gretas-very-corporate-childrens-crusade/
ATB
poco, do your own research please. I have spent a life time at a young age already warning people and then the same sheep tell me what I told them 10 years ago. Everything Snowden said I use to tell people and was laughed at.... Have you heard of the social credit system in china ? I spent years telling people that was coming in and was mocked, china have rolled it out at a mass scale. I agree we need to take better care of not just the climate but also our health. If you look up at the sky on a clear blue sky you will see all over the world our gov are cloud seeding, that is having an affect on the bee population (killing the bees off) and changing the weather, making it colder in some parts of the earth and burning other parts.
(Scotland would have been as rich as Norway if the Westminster Eton boys hadn't stolen all of the oil of the Scottish people.)
The UKs oil just like Scotland benefits from people like us buying and selling shares and the stock exchange and the city of London that these days pays a large chunk of the bills of the Country.
pocopicu, thanks yes scorched typing from my Samsung and auto corrected.
Nut case... matter of an opinion, anyone who thinks different to the bbc or sky, fox and mainstream is a nut case... remember climate activists were also considered nutcases especially the ones who were complaining about plastic in the sea...I am sure someone once said man will fly into space and on the moon was considered a nutcase. Anyway your opinion, just do your own research... I told people about electronic implants tracking us, social credit system ( china) google and facebook listening into our conversations via our smartphones around 2008 and I was called a nutcase... so doesn't bother me bro. Soros finances a lot of political movements. Take it easy.
haggis trap Scotland would have been as rich as Norway if the Westminster Eton boys hadn't stolen all of the oil of the Scottish people.
> The same way she can ignore the outcome of a "once-in a- generation " referendum.
Is Boris Johnson "dead in a ditch" ?
Of course Westminster don't want another IndyRef2.
The lies they told in 2014 will come back to haunt them.
The only way UK can survive brexit intact is to ignore the SNP majority in Scotland.
^ It is a question that applies to the entire planet which is addicted to oil (not just Scotland).
Google the McCrone report. Back in 1970s they told Scotland there was no oil. In 2014 they said North Sea Oil was about to run out. In 2020 the next lie will be that no more oil can be extracted....
Hi chablard,
You ask …."I said how can she marry living off oil taxes and her stance on climate change.?"
The same way she can ignore the outcome of a "once-in a- generation " referendum.
Some might say, in so doing, she's burnishing her credentials as a 'good European' (Lisbon , anyone ?)
ATB
Nobody is chiding anyone. Try reading the post first before getting on your high horse like most blinkered folk do.
I said how can she marry living off oil taxes and her stance on climate change.
Simple question, nothing more
@chablard / @hydrogen : people invested in oil stocks chiding Sturgeon for not taking action on "climate emergency".
that is hilarious.
I'm a Scot living in the Highlands but not sure how Sturgeon is going to marry her "climate emergency " with wanting to sustain taxes from oil.
The Highlands have traditionally never voted snp. We feel more akin to Scandinavia.
ATB
Does this figure seem correct ?
In 2017-18, the approximate sales value of oil and gas produced in Scotland is estimated to be £20.0 billion - from the Scottish Gov Website...
GL with your votes haggis and Don, if you get your independence subsequently I guess us Southerners will no longer have to change our clocks twice a year
Of course the Army, HS2 ,olympics and nuclear weapons are all things Scotland should pay nothing for
^ GERS figures which you reference only include devolved spending.
All Scottish tax goes to Westminster (including oil) then we get ~60% of it back as pocket money to Holyrood. The rest is kept for UK items (army / nuclear weapons / HS2 / olympics). The thanks we get for this is being called subsidy junkies by ignorant posters like yourself who haven't actually thought if the GERs figures pass the sniff test.
government spending in or on behalf of Scotland was £12.63bn greater than income from taxes, including a geographic share of North Sea oil and gas revenues.
That was equivalent to 7.0 per cent of Scottish gross domestic product, down slightly from the 8.1 per cent recorded for 2017-18, but still far larger than the deficit of the UK as a whole. The UK deficit was 1.1 per cent last year, down from 2.0 per cent in 2017-18.
The data showed that as part of the UK, Scottish government revenues per person are £307 less than in the UK as whole when North Sea income is included, while total government expenditure is £1,660 more.
“Today’s Gers figures show clearly how Scotland benefits from being part of a strong UK with every man, woman and child in Scotland receiving a ‘Union dividend’ of nearly £2,000 a year,”
^ More mistruth and British nationalist lies.
Scotland doesn't have any debt or indeed full fiscal autonomy.
Holyrood spending set by Barnett formula. Devolved tax raising powers are limited by design.
Scotland has notional share of UK debt allocated to it by GERs figures.
Also Scotland would never meet the economic/debt/currency criteria required by the EU, so rejoining the EU post independence is a pipe dream, as is all the other milk and honey dreams perpetrated by the Nats !
Haggis the EU won't allow parts of countries to leave and stay in the EU, so it is accurate. If they did then the Spanish and many other countries would be very unhappy as it's one of the sticks to beat their own successionist movements with.
@SoupChicken.
Have a look at this tweet.
There are many more from 2014.
https://www.businessforscotland.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Screen-Shot-2016-06-24-at-13.03.41.png
Hi SoupChicken
A case of 'My enemy's enemy is my friend...?'
ATB
haggis "In 2014 we were told independence risked EU membership - they lied!"
haggis, it was the EU who stated this. It was the EU who said Scotland would leave the EU if it became independent at the time. They bad guys were the EU, and now they seem to be the good guys.
This is the problem with your argument , now matter which way you look at it, it contradicts itself.
haggis_trap - I agree with you sentiments on the election, it's as disaster for the nation and only a question of which option is worse. Michael Heseltine put it well on the Andrew Neil show last night. Many people Tory and Labour are deeply torn, both leaders "unchecked" are likely to trash the nation. all those that are thoughtful and care want a good outcome, a hung parliament appears the UK's only chance.
I am a traditional Tory voter, but cannot vote for a liar and would have voted for moderate Labour to end the disaster but for them going AWAL and electing a communist they would have completely crushed the Conservatives.
That aside my original post was actually none political and looked at it purely from a shareholder viewpoint on one issue.
One only has to compare EU support for Ireland over Brexit versus suck it up Scotland you made a dumb choice listening to Cameron in 2014 to see the advantage of being at the EU table.
It is like having a position in HUR via an open ended fund with the share price down to 29p and not being able to trade the share as a result. A loss of direct control.
@Adzh : if you don't understand the difference between choosing to be member of EU and being an independent nation then I can't help you. the beauty of independence is Scots would decide for themselves if we join EU (or not).