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Dark knight
"Monsanto sued for billions and lost due to there can cancer causing fertiliser "
I think you'll find it's a herbicide. Glyphosate.
Gl
O/T:
What do you want to know about demolition, DK?
GLA
Sorry all for starting this mindless conspiracy debate... I just hope to God it doesn't move to flat earthers lol
We will find out at 12am tonight how high the oil price will trade at once the Asian markets open... I really hope hurricane sky rockets up too just like pmo and enq and tullow...
Johnpwh how does it not make sense a bloody 47 storey building free fell BBC reported via a Reuters news line that the building had fallen live on friggin TV while in the behind the reporter it was still standing?? Explain that...go and plesss debate with the 9/11 architects and engineers the link I sent you and if you convince them then I will except your version. Mate I have been debating this topic for 18 years since the events and I have had thousands of debates with people like you and I respect your opinion not trying to convert you... go and speak to a architect civil engineer and a demolition expert and hear what they say
I note that the HUR, ENQ and PMO boards now have in total well over 100 posts on the SA attacks and the potential effects on the PoO. Meanwhile the RDS and BP boards have all of 1 comment (....) each. Who said that investors in HUR (and ENQ and...) were not traders at heart!!!!
Oil price should go up so more income on the next offload,
Very good week on progress but very poor response of the share price hope this improves I don't want big rises just a steady rise to keep me interested here now only 150k of shares but will stick it out for a while as there should be no bad news to come in the near future.
Hi Genghis. Sorry, the 'someone' was you, and you were correct.
DK, only just come in and noticed your reply. Your building 7 point makes no sense - if staged why would a building collapse that hadn't had a suitably staged impact. That would be the act of pretty dumb conspiracists! If a Government were to instigate such an atrocity in their own country would they choose to destroy their own financial infrastructure, including wealth producing humans, which was massively important to it own wealth and future? HOWEVER, as someone else has pointed out this isn't a board for such topics and I apologise to all for raising it. I will not be responding further re 9/11
DK, who knows. But a rising tide lifts all ships, so up for sure.
tomorrow,it will be down
Yeah g15 ...sorry guys. G15 prediction tomorrow for hur price ?
Dspp I have read all of that nonsense for the last 18 years I play football with mainly architects and non of them believe what toy state.. I have read every single report on 9/11 but have you read the other sides ? It simply defies the laws of physics and thermodynamics anyway enough on the subject this is hurricane board not conspiracy central.we can have our different opinions and be respectful of each others views ..
What do you reckon hur will be priced at tomorrow? How high will it go? Opps update on Friday
How about those wishing to discuss 9/11 set up a new thread, preferably on a separate bb, to discuss it?
Dspp I have seen all of those and it isn't possible according to https://www.ae911truth.org/ these guys are experts...
There are many cases where government backed experts give one opinion and then another set of experts give another. Grenfell burnt to a crisp in fact never in the history of high rise building fires has a whole building free fallen. At some point you have to use your own logic and look at all the facts across the various experts . A 47 storey building with a steal outer structure and solid concrete can not free fall at 10 metres per second due to a few fires.... not not not possible. There are many false flag terror operations which are full fact..
Look at aspartame artificial sweeteners we were told for the last 30 years its save but now we know it makes you dumb and causes cancer
Monsanto sued for billions and lost due to there can cancer causing fertiliser
All of these were government and private expert approved
You should read economic hit man a book by former CIA agent
New American century
Protocols of Zion
The plans are all clearly listed in there before 9/11 even happened
DarkKnight : Read the links I posted for you.
I amnotamanalyst ...
RICHARD GAGE, AIA
Architect
"These professionals who collectively have over 25,000 years of experience have signed our petition calling for a new investigation."
Mate, please why don't you explain to a mere thicko conspiracy theorist like me how building 7 fell ? Go on ? I have read all the official nonsense and it makes no logical sense to me and you might have heard of the 9/11 movement called architects and engineers against 9/11 who want trump to open up a new investigation into the attacks, they are experts and they don't buy your official version I am not even talking about the twin towers which define the laws of physics completely... I am asking you how a 47 storey steal structure could free fall because of a few small contanable fires. It's funny how eveb the 911 fire crew on record said it was impossible for the building to fall I am only asking questions just like any detective would... so BBC reporter reports that building 7 has fallen whilst she is reporting it is still standing? Wow she must have been nostradamus lol
3199 engineers and architects say it isn't possible for building 7 to free fall and collapse... but if you prefer to believe Bush and cheany who were honorably and truthful people like messah Tony Blair that is up to you. Not here to convince you everybody has their own opinions I respect yours ... we can all still be friends with different opinions.
https://www.ae911truth.org
Also Saudis Israel and the neo hawks think long long term they don't care about Aramco ipo or how much money they lose it's all a out war and war with Iran.. I am sure the same people will have large bets for oil to move up... there is always money to be made when you have inside knowledge just like plenty of people made on 9/11 .. that is fact you can reas about all of that on public record since the FBI were investigating many suspicious trades durring911.
I am just asking questions
Johnpwh, how did building 7 which was part of the WTC , a 47 storey building free fall ? Please don't say because of a few small fires....greenfell burnt to a crisp and it didn't fall ...Can you please explain that one to me ?
Read these:
http://web.mit.edu/civenv/wtc/PDFfiles/Chapter%20VI%20Materials%20&%20Structures.pdf
http://www-math.mit.edu/~bazant/WTC/WTC-asce.pdf
http://web.mit.edu/civenv/wtc/Towers%20Lost%20&%20Beyond.pdf
TBC I am not saying the Saudis attacked themselves, ; I believe the story that the Houthis did it, with likely Iranian / Saudi dissident involvement.
But afaik, and I have no specialist knowledge, security is tight around these facilities, including against drones, and Saudi/US intelligence pretty good too. With it coming at such a convenient time, I just can't help wondering if security looked the other way for a few minutes...….who knows.
DK, you're calling out fake news and then you bring up building 7! There's a clear plausible explanation of why that building collapsed. If you choose to ignore that or want a more complicated dark explanation then you go for it. Why don't you read up about structural engineering and the design of the building?
Then you make up another conspiracy theory. Why would SA destroy 50% of their own production to increase the PoO by 20-100%. In the best case their they have the same revenue, plus plenty of repair work to do...oh and lost market share and the Aramco IPO shot to pieces. The law of logic must have changed for that to be true!
Also, to the oil bears here if OPEC wanted to pump more they could have done that before this incident. If they break up OPEC agreements then SA will just open all the taps as soon as they can and PoO will crash again...the reason for OPEC is to avoid that scenario (unless it's intentional). Of course OPEC could fill some of the gap temporarily but SA have said they I'll reserves.
Johnpwh, how did building 7 which was part of the WTC , a 47 storey building free fall ? Please don't say because of a few small fires....greenfell burnt to a crisp and it didn't fall ...Can you please explain that one to me ? Last I read there were no planes which hit building 7 ? A full steal structure free falling, Interesting, laws of physics must have changed.
G15 I have to agree with you on your comments on the Prince and your conspiracy theory. He has only been in the job for a week and he has managed to get $70-100 dollars per barrel of oil in such a short space of time... reminds me of a false flag terror operation. I wonder what drones the Yemenis were using, maybe their head of purchasing bought them from maplin before it went in to liquidation lol I smell a rat just saying no facts here but I just smell something fishy. I am surprised the KSA money bags don't have defence capabilities around their key oil facilities against such simple attacks.... Bolton must be laughing at trump now..maybe that was his going away 2 fingers up to fat tweet boy... either way regardless of how quickly the ksa oil production gets back online, now oil will remain high because of this attack, also heightened tensions with Iran, I cant see orange man taking any sanctions of Iran... maybe this false flag was a joint operation to force trump to keep pressure on Iran and create a reason for war just like tony Blair did against Iraq....my guess I'd mossad along with ksa and the neo fascist usa hawks have concutted this conspiracy
Genghis
"Atm it looks like the rest of OPEC will take this as an excuse o pump to the max, ostensibly to make good the shortfall."
Not just the rest of OPEC but also Russia. What concerns me is whether this could lead to a breakdown of the OPEC + agreement.
I don't buy a conspiracy theory on this, any more than America felled the Twin Towers. If there were such a conspiracy for political reasons (for either event) the same effect could be achieved with far less destruction, just by showing vulnerability due to ease of attack - as reports unfold there seems to be massive damage to the refineries. Whether the strikes were effectively Iran is another matter, clearly the Trump administration think that is the case so a firming of sanctions is likely....or is it, since that would lead to even greater pressure on PoO which the orange one is less than keen on? Interesting times
Lets wait and see how long the outage is, and by how much.
Atm it looks like the rest of OPEC will take this as an excuse o pump to the max, ostensibly to make good the shortfall.
If Abqaiq is restored quickly it might be hard to dial that back, meaning surpluses in coming months. What looks atm like good news for oil producers might in the medium term have the opposite effect.
So wait and see, my initial reaction is that shortage fears are likely to be overstated, and the price effect modest, unless things escalate.
price = prince, Saudi Royal