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Used to see em struggling to get back to the depot after they'd finished their rounds
Lol yeah oils a good punt for mid term I reckon...
Overpriced battery milk float but less usefull, remember them lol
Billy - yes oil will be needed for many many years that's for sure. Averaged down on my shell the other week as it went below 900 - bargain!
Qz.tbey just need a battery that last 1000 miles or/and can charge fully in less than 10 minutes...long way away I I reckon
Qz.they are nice those tesla cars but impractical for now
BP Ever hit £1.50s I'll load up on a good amount my average is eye watering for the moment literally eye watering they are watering has I write this message
Lolmc...cheers matey I'm still no wiser on the subject ...but oil isnt going away in tbe short term despite looneys attempting to play it down ...just wait till the world gets back on it feet again in another 6 months oil will rise with demand
I believe most of the scare-mongering on hydrogen safety has been debunked - but in any event most of the cost associated with hydrogen fuelling would be in transporting it. This is why the majority of solutions being developed are more concentrated around local supply - electrolysers generating the hydrogen at the fuel station, depot, or wherever it's needed. For ships you'd just have an electrolyser on board to generate it.
Ken what do you make of this hydrogen power? Is it not extremely dangerous say in two trucks that collide? I'm think it fidnt do Hiroshima a lot of good that hydrogen
I bet elon is shaking in his boots no one buying his cars very poor results no up to expectations ;-))) oh hang on people are buying his products :-))) result was way better than expected?? Whos buying his cars? People that dont go very far..well who's not going anywhere far? Us fooking lot with this virus :-)))
Daytradenovice
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pete, has stalled a bit this last week hasnt it, previous high around 240 though. Am sure if he's around and rested over the weekend Breathe will pitch in with his knowledge.
Eviking
It was a bit of a giggle doing that wasnt it. I ran two Citroen Berlingos single tank on it and used to strip the shelves each time we went shopping and drove past the fuel station smiling. Of course no Citroen was supposed to technically run on it due to the viscosity and the Lucas pumps but they did if you were sensible lol.
Only stopped because of a BBC news article going massive on the tv about everybody in Cardiff doing the same thing - all the supermarkets wacked the price upto £1.20 overnight.
daytradenovice
veg oil i used it 2. My citroen zantia loved the 29p a litre from the supermarket. Electric cars supply. athe large 7to13kw charge stations needs good infra structure for sure.
Fira - tell me about it I was expecting it to drop to the 235 placing price but nope, up 5% instead hahaha
Lolm, i remember Birmingham university talking about a prototype hydrogen fuel install they had designed for a car when i was 18, im 52 now and still waiting to see it in action. Maybe for buses, lorries etc there is a use, but nothing smaller. Fully biodiesel however (i ran an old car on waste oil for several years a decade or so back) is what id consider the way forward and 101% possible now, with no special tech needed, lots of lorries use it already.
Billy the team would suit me and it’s a fekin site cheaper lol
The superfast chargers are impossible to install at home too, theres a limit to the amount of juice you can pull via a domestic supply.
Our local council has a few chargers (that my f*ing tax has paid to install) that you can use but they charge £0.30/kw. Cheeky barstewards thats at least 50% more than the domestic cost per kw. Large users (such as the council) can negiotiate their bills in bulk via the suppliers markets. My employer, probably the heaviest user of juice in the SW, pay £0.05p/kw. Ripoff all round.
Hence electric cars are only a part of the solution... hydrogen the only viable option for freight, trains, ships, etc
Ken theres always the tram ;-)
Ken yeah that's my point ..I daid ages ago if you got a vehicle that did 1000 miles per charge thats be more like it and charge times was 3 to 10 minutes that's acceptable I reckon
The list for charge times has come out a bit mixed up but where it says can’t charge in this type of charger they’re referring to the 150kw super charge point even this takes an hour on the Tesla model who the f want to take an hour to refil for a range of only 250 mile, it’s ok if your just stoking round the country with no timescale but totally impractical for the working man.
Re; Electric Vehichles.
We just back from the isle of white and Jackies, sisters' friend has bought a tesla £85,000 ffs they said its great for short runs but take feking ages to charge and mileage range is crap, they went on a journey stopped at a charge point and the units were all in use so had to wait till one was free it took them 45mins to get a unit then 1 1/2 hours to charge ffs thats *******s.
Just read this chart.
How long it takes to fully charge an electric car
Empty-to-full time to charge with different chargepoint speeds:
Vehicle
Empty to full charging time***
Model Battery Pod Point
Confidence Range* 3.7kW slow 7kW fast 22kW fast 43-50kW rapid 150kW rapid
Nissan LEAF (2018) 40kWh 143 miles 11 hrs 6 hrs 6 hrs 1 hr Can't charge on this kind of charger
Tesla Model S (2019)** 75kWh 238 miles
21 hrs 11 hrs 5 hrs 2 hrs <1 hr
Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV (2018) 13.8kWh 24 miles
4 hrs 4 hrs 4 hrs 40 mins Can't charge on this kind of charger