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Not sure who is doing this blatant bit of manipulation under the cover of Brexit chaos. Capital, in trouble in London, have disposed of 20m shares here in the same period that saw the SP go from 6€ to 4€, they still have 30m to play with.
No not Blackrock, just all silly politics There trend is usually a big pump and dump early Dec ,watch this space
Going a bit "South" this afternoon however off it's low. Blackrock selling?
But it could provide a very neat solution for Arlene and her friends - The Ulster Scots, if they are allowed to return, - and the "Rangers tendency."
They won't all go, some will learn manners and join with the rest of us - what the outcome will be is what makes this scenario interesting.
I think the cream will rise as it does on a bottle of Jersey.
Good luck all..
My post of last night was visible - NOW IT's gone - what I said was "The Speaker seems to be the only hope of preventing a slide into the Abyss - or is that the Media.
Good luck all.
It is clear that we are witnessing the end of the United Kingdom as we know it.
A divided entity it sadly now is.
Scotland is likely to seek independence in the near future.
Watch this space.
Having to now be on your 14th ID. to continue with the same old drivel of the last few years, is being obsessed. Has your removal on so many occasions tell you nothing about your message?
that DCB/last train/ 2cv_driver/bigfoot/lights out/last-train etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc
has been sent, by whom nobody knows as it is unsigned.
''So Johnson will send the letter after all ''
3 letters have been sent to the EU.
UK parliament have a choice between the BJ WA and no WA.
M B. They have indeed lost - when I wrote a week or so ago that change was on the way I was reporting the discontent among the Orange Men whose acquaintance I have gained on the golf course. The surest way of disturbing their equilibrium is to ask what they think of Boris and Brexit and follow it with a question about the success of the recent Northern Secretary's.
Their siege mentality is beginning again to express itself due to their much diminished "human rights" - the loss of their Veto, will no doubt result in much noise and marching - in spite of the weather.
Eventually it will be realised that if you leave other people to sort out your future, when they are paying for it, you really cannot complain when they take a purely practical course much like Europe will do when the dust settles.
Behind the scenes at the DUP should be quite something to see and hear, it will probably be quite a lot worse than having a fox in the hen house. They have had their chance and have really blown it, when they should have been listening to their constituents at home, while they have been on holiday effectively for the last 1,000 days.
They no longer have a majority in Stormont - following the election there will probably only be enough of them to raise an echo.
My feeling is that at last real politics will start to take root here - yes I am sure that it will be bumpy for a while - but really they have upset so many people up here with their dereliction of duty that both they and Sinn Fein will suffer when the ballot boxes are opened after the election.
Good luck all...
After three days of trying to win round the Democratic Unionist Party to his revised withdrawal agreement, the prime minister has decided to go it alone.
Today he will sign off on the agreement in Brussels knowing that his chances of getting the deal through the House of Commons is at best slim unless there is a change of heart from his unionist allies. This is deeply unlikely, but where the DUP are concerned nothing can ever be entirely ruled out.
Reading the text of the revised withdrawal agreement, it is easy to see why the deal is unacceptable for the DUP.
For a start, although there is a new mechanism designed to give Northern Ireland a say on following EU rules and regulations after the end of the transition period, it falls far short of what the party would have liked.
For a start, Northern Ireland politicians would only be consulted on the deal four years after it has come into effect. That means that the province would be aligning itself with the EU until 2024 at the very least before being given a say on its future.
Even then, the Unionist community will not have a veto on the continuation of the arrangement. Under the plan, if a simple majority of Assembly members vote in favour of it the backstop will continue for a further four years.
Given that the DUP no longer has a majority in the assembly, they simply do not have the power to block it.
The EU has moved. In the previous backstop there was no consent mechanism at all. However, the consent mechanism that has now been adopted is very unlikely to result in a change in the status quo. The cards are stacked against the DUP and they know it.
Here is the party's dilemma. Its base will back the hardline stance and, after all the rhetoric of the past few years, would have felt betrayed if they had signed up to such a compromise. The DUP itself came to power having outflanked the UUP on the right and it knows only too well the danger of the centre ground in Northern Ireland politics.
But equally, many moderate unionist voters will be appalled by the party opposing a deal which in pure economic terms is very good news for Northern Ireland.
It offers the province the best of both worlds: pretty much frictionless access to both the British and European markets.
You could see firms currently located in the UK suddenly seeing the attractiveness of relocating.
So the party is between a rock and a hard place. For now it has decided to hold out. It has not explicitly committed to rejecting the deal when it comes before the Commons on Saturday, but the party's support looks doubtful to say the least.
And then what? If it doesn't pass, an election or even a second referendum looks likely. Neither is an attractive prospect.
For a party built on the angry rhetoric of 'no surrender', there are no good options. They may not have surrendered, but one way or the other they may well have lost.
may help with any betfair punts.
I think I got about 20/1 'leave' as the polls were closing in 2016
From the betfair website before the 2016 referendum. Punters are suckers by times.
"The Betfair markets are at odds with the polls on the Brexit. While the Brexit is 3.80 (a 26% chance) on Betfair, with staying in 1.35 (74%), the latest polls indicate a much tighter contest. YouGov gives Leave a one point lead, ICM puts the two sides level and ComRes puts Remain 12 points ahead. Almost all the polls since David Cameron set June 23 as the date for the referendum fall within the margin of error. And yet bettors remain confident that Britain is staying in the European Union."
On betfair , Now odds on that the UK leaves this year and odds on by Halloween.
Hope some of you made the most of the slow response in prices today like I did.
What Juncker actually said was....."We have a deal so no need for prorogation"
Anyway it's up to the EU council to decide an extension....not Juncker.
The EU Council will avoid being blamed by granting an extension
I'm not sure the 2 choices will be WA2 or no deal. Johnson has no majority to set the agenda.
It's just as likely to be a NO brexit. The Ben law still applies even if the EU don't want an extension. The UK still have to ask.
Will be interesting ..
On betfair , you can still get even money that the UK leaves this year and 2/1 by Halloween.
people seem to be reacting slowly to news
''If the deal does go through (not at all sure''
''In fact the best option now for them is NO BREXIT at all.''
The BJ WA not the TM (not leaving deal ) will be voted on , on Saturday.
Juncker has said on TV within the last hour that the EU will not extend again.
Therefore on Saturday MP's will have the choice between the BJ WA and NO DEAL
No wonder Varadkar was smiling at the outcome today!
I'm not surprise the DUP are unhappy. I know there is still the HoC vote to stop this deal but they have made a huge mistake i believe. If they had voted for May's WA (the 2nd deal) NIreland would be in an equal position to the rest of UK. This deal is even worse from their point of view than May's 1st deal. It not only puts the border in the Irish sea but on many issues NI is now far closer to the Republic (and the EU) than to the UK. They may even be allowed to match our VAT rates. If the deal does go through (not at all sure) then they will have to hope the Uk and the EU negotiate a free trade agreement that keeps them as close as possible. In fact the best option now for them is NO BREXIT at all. Other wise it will be the end of Foster and Dodds at the very least and a major rethink inside the DUP of where their future lies.
More like we have a fox in the hen house
Looks like a dogs dinner of a deal.