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Thomas Cook Share Chat (TCG)



Share Price: 27.76Bid: 27.86Ask: 27.96Change: 0.00 (0.00%)No Movement on Thomas Cook
Spread: 0.10Spread as %: 0.36%Open: 30.20High: 30.46Low: 27.60Yesterday’s Close: 27.76


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CastlefordTiger
Posts: 116
Opinion:Strong Buy
Price:27.76
RE: Filter the noise..
Today 12:06
Post at 1053, what an R's.

Looooools, just lol.

Tiger x
Ironic
Posts: 15,350
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:27.76
RE: Filter the noise..
Today 10:53
So any buyer will be spoilt for choice at the moment airlines collapsing left right and centre . You cant give them away to save the jobs without some one starting a legal battle safer to go bust . On the other hand flight prices can go up as competition reduces . So next year would probably be a better time to sell . But they need the money .debt kills all businesses butthe market insists debt is great ! .
applegarth
Posts: 16,892
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:27.76
RE: Filter the noise..
Sat 20:41
Hello Gregpeck7...how's it going?
So FlyBMI have thrown in the towel.?.
.Mike O'Leary will be pleased. Ryanair will be squeezing passengers two to a seat next. Maybe TC airline will get a few extra bookings to help a possible sale, imo.
gregpeck7
Posts: 2,122
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:27.76
Filter the noise..
Sat 20:09
The airline is profitable, the slots are highly profitable, it’s well positioned, just because poorly positioned carriers with assets that are not in demand go on the cheap does not mean this one will. Like in all markets there are good and bad assets. This is a cracker and it will command a premium.
CastlefordTiger
Posts: 116
Opinion:Strong Buy
Price:27.76
RE: TCG
Sat 19:27
LOLOLOL

You're an R's.

Jet2 in serious trouble, to be announced in due course - DART - SELL.
hawkwing81
Posts: 57
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:27.76
RE: TCG
Sat 19:24
Who is going to spend good money on buying an airline in today’s market ?

Flybe offer at 1p, Germania going bust and over the last hour Flybmi have gone. Surely nobody really believes that someone will spend hundreds of millions on buying an airline just for a few slots.
DC2007
Posts: 353
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:27.76
Distressed?
Sat 19:21
Fair to describe TCG now as a company in distress?
BigDano
Posts: 34
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:27.76
RE: Article
Sat 15:22
There joint venture into the Chinese market has grown well, difficult year but big potential to serve the Chinese market

https://www.google.com/amp/s/skift.com/2018/11/26/thomas-cook-china-launches-new-strategy-amid-huge-chinese-tourist-declines-in-thailand/amp/
Quisty
Posts: 76
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:27.76
RE: Article
Sat 13:26
and is the Chinese economy now slowing down as they have been over ambitious in the past?
so far what have the chinese investors seen from investing in TCG?
genuine question not a dig
jedclampit
Posts: 271
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:27.76
TCG
Sat 12:50
It's fair to say that everyone knows TCG have about £1.5b in debt and need to make changes, They have decided to move more towards owning hotels where they will make much more profit, to this end they have borrowed another £51m and plan to have 20 hotels open by the summer.
They need to use planes to get their customers to the resorts / hotels but why have all the overheads of the 108 plans / services / overheads/ and replacement costs when they can sell the lot for what £500m - £1b.
That gives them cash to pay off debt, it gives them cash to invest in more hotels and they then only have to pay for seats on plans.
Many companies decide to change the future directions which might seem daft now but might make plenty of sense and more money in the years to come.
Clearly the current / old system is not working so let's change it while there are companies ready and willing to take the planes off our hands at the right price.
Shipright
Posts: 2,786
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:27.76
Sorry if already posted
Sat 11:50
Sardarji
Posts: 3
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:27.76
Re: Article
Sat 11:26
Q2 cash covenants have a £25m-30m hole. Looks like 3rd pty tour operators will be paid by card again!
Desperately need to renegotiate all covenants with banks.

TC should never have to pay by card - the customer pays TC the full balance 16 weeks before departure and tour operators are paid by TC 8 weeks before departure. 8 weeks free cash and still paying by card!!
CastlefordTiger
Posts: 116
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:27.76
RE: Article
Sat 10:05
If you are so worried, why invest?
If you are not invested, why worry?

Tiger.
ROMANY-ROE
Posts: 109
Opinion:Hold
Price:27.76
RE: Article
Sat 09:53
Quisty

Guo Guangchang
Owns at last count 246,346,337 shares and equates 16.0397% of TCG

Fosun International Ltd

Owns at my last check? 169,059,734 11.01%

Guo Guangchang for information Quisty is thathat Guangchang owns fosun as the founder of that company .technically he is holder of 27% of TCG,Our biggest shareholder then comes

Invesco
233,362,508 15.19%

those shareholders hold roughly 43% of this company,i think any sale or break up needs there count in any descion,me im derisking nxt week this is not run for shareholders i will keep 10%
Quisty
Posts: 76
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:27.76
RE: Article
Sat 09:44
Unfounded? Massive debt, Falling Sales, Massive losses, large retail network on a dying high street, in a position where bankers are taking control - where does your optimism come from?
made money out of this when there was scope to do so
CastlefordTiger
Posts: 116
Opinion:Strong Buy
Price:27.76
RE: Selling the airline....
Sat 08:16
Whatever.

Loooooooooooools
hawkwing81
Posts: 57
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:27.76
Selling the airline....
Sat 07:55
If anyone believes that selling the airline is a good thing then you are mad. TCG don’t want to sell the airline, Selling the airline screams of desperation and the banks want some money back before the whole thing goes tits up. Someone even posted that selling to Ryanair would be a good thing ?
Europe is on the brink of a recession and companies that have mountains have debt simply won’t survive when people will have less or no money to spend. It’s fine aquiring hotels but they won’t be getting anywhere near full unless they discount them and make a loss.
Anyone investing in any company right now is taking a risk, investing in one with the debt and losses of tcg is madness. You are taking a huge gamble that most of Europe won’t fall into recession, everything will be fine after brexit and tcg will somehow take loads of market share back from other companies.
Tillywhiz
Posts: 35
Premium Chat Member
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:27.76
Article
Sat 06:41
With your self predictive skill on stocks I’m surprised your not rubbing shoulders with Warren Buffet on a Friday night rather than posting unfounded negative comments on a casual share chat board , perhaps they gave you the evening off...
Quisty
Posts: 76
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:27.76
RE: Article
Fri 23:05
i have not seen that anywhere. there were articles saying the airline could be worth between £1b and £3b
for yrs now i have predicted what was going to happen to this stock
it was propped up by PR for years but now its value is reflecting the reality...
BigDano
Posts: 34
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:27.76
RE: Article
Fri 22:59
They increased their holding yesterday. Do some research before posting...
Quisty
Posts: 76
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:27.76
RE: Article
Fri 22:48
what does Fosun owning 17% have anything to do with it? they have their own financial issues and clearly are not prepared to increase their share holding (cannot afford it) probably regretting getting involved in first place
Quisty
Posts: 76
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:27.76
RE: Article
Fri 22:46
Agadir, Antalya, Cancún, Djerba, Fuerteventura, Funchal, Gran Canaria, Havana, Hurghada, La Palma, Lanzarote, Marrakesh, Punta Cana, Tenerife–South, Bridgetown, Corfu, Dalaman, Enfidha, Fortaleza, Fort-de-France, Heraklion, Ibiza, Kalamata, Kavala, Kos, Lamezia Terme, Marsa Alam, Mauritius, Mombasa, Montego Bay, Mykonos, Palma de Mallorca, Preveza, Puerto Plata, Olbia, Recife, Rhodes, Santorini, Sitia, Skiathos, Thessaloniki, Varadero, Volos, Zakynthos, Zanzibar are the destinations from Munich More Easyjet destinations than Lufthansa
BigDano
Posts: 34
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:27.76
RE: Article
Fri 22:45
It's not just the aircraft. Lufthansa owned Condor. They know the IT system, condor uses Lufthansa rewards program today. Why would they risk waiting for TC to go bust with Fosun owning 17% are you mad?




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