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LionelGreen
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RE: US Storage talks
Today 20:07
Good spot dubmaskullanga, thanks for posting!

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BonScott
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Highway to hell
Today 17:48
Off topic, welcome home Malcolm.
dubmaskullanga
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Today 17:45
I will be interested to see the degradation rate of organic electrolytes.
Oh, here we go!
https://www.nature.com/articles/srep39101
As a headline figure: "This is confirmed further in an RFB battery tests in Fig. 6c, where an acidic all-organic RFB with HQ(1,4)S loses half of its capacity after only 30 cycles."
Most of the organics are non-reversibly degraded so would need to de disposed of.
I think that Vanadium will be the reliable workhorse for some time to come!
ParaRanger
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Nick, I have an investment opportunity you may be interested in. How could we link up?
faramog
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Today 12:43
And Alfa, don't forget that the grid cannot cope with must more ragged flow renewables (let alone for Electric Vehs... the cost benefit of localised VRB vs upgrading the national grid will make current VRB prices cost effective (it does now really).

It is not the absolute cost of the power (as measured by purchase, operational and lifetime costs), is the trade off with the alternatives as well
Alfacomp
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Today 12:17
Jagadish - the world really doesn't have an alternative to VRFBs as far as I can see. 'Sustainable Energy without the Hot Air' p 192 suggests that if we are going to use renewables to a major extent we need energy storage on the levels of 1200GWh. THAT IS JUST FOR THE UK.

At present the UK has a total or around 25 GWh total coming from our 4 pumped storage sites,
Jagadish
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Today 11:24
I'm sure that you're right Alfacomp. It's worth bearing in mind, though, that if the price of a commodity rises there is an alternative to paying more , which is to find a cheaper alternative. However, my motivation in highlighting the paragraph is simply to add interesting ingredients to the mix and stimulate discussion.
Alfacomp
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Today 11:23
...3 times as much Vanadium on the planet as Copper.
faramog
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Today 11:21
I suppose its a good job to have a fully vertically integrated offering then. If you only supply the box and electrics you have to buy the electrolyte that has then two lots of profit already factored in (the mine and electrolyte plant). On top of that you then charge a profit of the system. Same thing happens in the food chain. Just look at say milk and what a farmer gets vs what we pay in a supermarket.

Having that vertical integration means that overall profit can be distributed to create the offering. Also, the leasing element will end up key I think.

Oh .. and what would be the recovery/resale value of the organic molecules ?
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RE: US Storage talks
Today 11:05
jagadish - this is a common refrain from US research labs and universities. You have to remember that people in the US think that Vanadium is rare, when in fact there is 3 times as much Vanadium on the planet.

They think this because they have no Vanadium mines - it is the US-centric world view that they are playing to to try and attract research funds, not scientific or economic fact.




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