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The ONDO telegram group have near faith status, however the writing was on the wall when ONDO tried to tackle and build a US plumbing network. More than Ouch, new cash - tough going - take out by PE etc possible.

WI create another strategic alliance with "clip on" water leak detection devices manufacture BlueBot (to include a white label offering). This sits alongside the StreamLab high end product used for executive dwellings / industrial installations. This will certainly shake up the ONDO model being promoted in the USA. Lets see what the proposed insurance model looks like from the WI team.

Empire has some dubious people who were involved with BlueJay (80M) and have a habit of ignoring the interests of shareholders investments. May be wrong but a few "red flags" of the past and their track records.

Chairman is not a dividend person (considers that WI woudl no longer be a growth company) - I do not expect this to change unless CG adds thei weight behind such a move. A wider listing is required, but still no news. ONDO also now spluttering, whcih will cheer the Chairman and CEO up, since they pushed hard the Chubb solutions (will they now get on with it !!!!)

Kets go one step forward A-S-H-T-O-N is Rod ...

AMRQ shares have already been issued to 80M (initial purchase) and next payment cycle (especially in shares) will interesting and valuable. AMRQ plan to float of main FTSE index next year and are a quality outfit.

This thread title is incorrect in that RachT2 is fully justified in their observations. 80M (or the sole operator RM) does a track record of not acting in the best interests of shareholders (or so it seems). There is progress but as ever a "murky" undertone exists of connected elements which all have RM !!! Lets see what RM / 80M has to say or in this BB it is Ashton who is the 80M proxy.

Oh Dear:-

Ashton we know is a 80M proxy and it is hard to understand how he still has faith in the BoD who appear to only deliver results for themselves. RachT2 I gather is acting for a number of disgruntled shareholders (although I suspect there are many more).

The BoD now have a problem in that most "mining" investors are looking elsewhere as many investments are delivering (AMRQ have strong, competent, professional management and clearly know how to operate in Greenland - 80M??).

Ashton (as you are clearly the proxy) - may we suggest a better method of shareholder representation as they do ultimately have a legal fiduciary duty to uphold.

Unfortunately too much hot air from BoD and the l k of deliverables. All of this “tech” is not being delivered effectively towards a proactive based offering. If they go any slower it will be a slow decline to …

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Hum, Rampers are in full flight today however this is for sub 2p and then another share consolidation 10:1. MET1 has issued an FCA warning - take note.

CC: Well the SP is in the Toilet, assets squandered, nosebags a plenty. RachT2 appears to moving towards of position that his points do have validity. Yes, I would like the BoD to seek guidance from their advisors and act correctly, but has that ever happened to date? Name changes do not hide the sins of the of past and the news flow to support the company is limited and often questionable. Lets trust Ashton hotline to the BoD is alive and well or there is a blockbuster announcement to quell the dissent.

Ashton, I have seen the BoD (new and old) deliver just pain and misery for every shareholder whereas at the same time destroying the company assets. Your points may have some merit but the historical position is fact "the Bod have failed in their judiciary duty and may well be sued in due course". RM old and new (yes aware of him) appears to be trying to rescue matters (HydroCarbos) however his position appears to be that of self interest with some yet undeclared connections. AMRQ have credibility, integrity and may well be better suited to forward any mineral projects and 80M can benefit. RachT2 appears to follow my train of thoughts and has a valid position. Perhaps as the BoD you wish to tell them to rectify matters professionally. .

Hum, it may be the case buybacks are in play, but they are in treasury to satisfy future executive bonuses, not for the value of company or to sell at a profit in the future. They would be better off cancelling the shares since the concert party rules are defined.

The market cap just about sums up the lack of faith, confidence, integrity in regards to BoD active contempt for shareholders. Something needs to change as it cannot be Ashton (aka proxy for BoD) who solely attempting to justify their position. With the new NED in play (who we trust was pulled in to try and legitimate the BoD), will there be a change of attitude. I doubt Zeus’s fund raising capacity is going to promote a further round following the last misguided efforts. Or is it time to give all mineral assets to AMRQ and just focus of the hydrocarbons to try and rescue integrity.

Interesting to note MET1's new statement on their website distancing themselves from "Editorial" hype. One could of drawn a view that the connected parties at MET1 were behind the "editorial", however they appear to be distancing themselves. Maybe the FCA has leant on them however why no official RNS from MET1 to clarify the position correctly.

Now that is a step forward. I recall some years ago Canaccord had WATR as part of their recommendations but then advised clients to reduce / sell out. I suspect Dowgate will be removed shortly as they are closely aligned / supporting ONDO.

The fundamentals may well be sound, but there are many companies trading below NAV, due to a lack of vision or concerns re overheads. WATR BoD have wasted valuable time in cementing a full technological approach. Yes he does own a chunk and when it sells to PE, payday, until then there are no fireworks or reason to add unless it really tanks or hot inspiring news flow.

That was enough, sold out my final holdings. Only one way with that amount of new shares being pumped through for a quick profit. If they report something tangible, yes may be able to hold a price,

Look at the “direction of travel”. RM et al, have no interest in minerals, except if someone else buys it, or JV’s and does all the work. Focus is hydrocarbons (reason RM left Jay). If you want a mineral company remove EM.