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BC, Orwell 1984 indeed, I was talking about the same with a mate of mine in the pub last night.
I ain't anti-vax and have just had my booster but I must admit to hesitating somewhat about getting the booster.
I do believe vaccines are the base layer protection for society but more and more people could become reluctant to keep taking them, not least for some of the reasons expressed on here.
I thinks we need something else as well !!!
Pray for brilliant Sprinter results.
GLA.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-set-to-have-one-million-omicron-infections-by-end-of-december-but-boosters-effective-say-experts-12492031

BJW - good news about your pal.
Brand - thanks for the ton of info you've put out today, you've earned a pint and reminded me, I should get to the pub straight away for the same.
Cheers.

Matt / Brand, wow this is complicated stuff. Don't know if you have seen the link below but I think it's great.....just to explain how mind-blowing this science is.
I keep persevering and trying to understand it all but I ain't a scientist and ain't got a crystal ball so I struggle.

Best Wishes all.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4733246/

https://www.ahri.org/omicron-incompletely-escapes-immunity-induced-by-the-pfizer-vaccine/
Headline:
"Laboratory research from South Africa strongly suggests that the SARS-CoV-2 Omicron variant escapes antibody immunity induced by the Pfizer-BioNTech (Comirnaty) vaccine, but that considerable immunity is retained in people who were both vaccinated and previously infected"

Thanks for that Matterhorn, straight to my missus that, especially since my covid symptoms were worse than hers !!

Ohdannyboy, an alternative positive thought perhaps:
Even if Omicron proves to be mild, who can say how the next variant may behave? If Sprinter is successful, do you not think governments would still want some in the back drawer?

Nessab, that's heartwarming.
HSD, your link is much appreciated. I remember the case but wasn't aware of Sir Stephens involvement.
Worth posting.
Thank you.

Gunto, What do you mean 'pandering to the likes of Dumbpunter' what you say makes no sense whatsoever.
I have provided a correct link to back up BeContrarians comment which explains that the COPD/asthma trials DID NOT fail.

Takes a big man to just say I got it wrong and apologise, so I politely invite you to do so. If you don't, then for both our sakes, please just filter me as you said you had before !!!
You may enjoy these mud slinging games. I just can't be bothered with the nonsense.

Gunto, why have you included my name in that list???
It's like you take delight in unfounded personal vendetta's.

Really sad state to be in.

BeContrarian, the link you posted didn't work for me. I think try:
https://www.synairgen.com/programmes/ifn-%CE%B2-sng001-in-copd/
Dumpunter why did you say it failed on efficacy ??
Gingerish....note above and good luck.

Sincerely wishing you all the best BJW, you win... we all win.
Dreaming of many clinking glasses.

Yip, good observation indeed.

Cheers, I'll clink to that.

Absolutely Elsol.

Hi Andy cheers, that's my point of reply. Vaccines are 'expected' to still work but as you say there could be some degree of escape....who knows?
Don't think it's wise to be overly negative about vaccine efficacy against Omicron just yet.

Plus this from the same link:
"Research by the National Institutes of Health in the US has shown that antibodies produced by COVID vaccines are more likely to recognise variations in the virus spike protein than those generated by natural immunity.

That could mean people who are fully vaccinated – and boosted – may still be able shrug off Omicron.

But it could be weeks before we know that for sure"

Not sure why you came to the vaccine efficacy view Andy?For mankind's sake let's hope the vaccines do work well, with SNG001 as a back up of course. I'll be getting my booster Monday, hoping it keeps myself safe having recovered (sort of) from covid recently.

Don't think the article makes it clear about the number of deaths ?

Yeh Kevin, also seems those drugs were tested only with those not needing Oxygen, unless I missed something.

Just found this, sorry if already been posted.
https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/news/covid-19-ema-recommends-authorisation-two-monoclonal-antibody-medicines

Yeh Matml74, you make some great points there. Appreciated.