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smithy
I think we should impose lockdowns on the younger people rather than the older people , the older people have been double vaxxed and are having boosters so not the most at risk of dying , whereas the younger peeps are mass spreaders

here we go again , around the circle one more time , yawn ,

it was implied that IAG will have to pay for air europa on the never never using credit , no one knows if thats the case or not , they have several years yet to pay for them , they may even pay cash outright , so the negative slant you post is not relevant in this case , I was on the understanding you were watching this company like a hawk , anyway I think the point has been made

AIR EUROPA
I thought they had 6 years to pay for it , so plenty of time ,

unfortunately it always brings out the worst in people , and we know a lot of money is going to be made here once the SP takes off , furthermore their are a huge number of PI here which I suspect the peoples in the funds and institutions would love to thin out IMO , I believe ls e are totally complicit in this too

its a two way street , some of the posters are just pushing back on the opposing view, the arguments just go round and round , we will see in a few days whose right and whose wrong

I can't speak about business travel,
but nearly all my friends are booking up next year , some are even thinking of booking a second holiday next year , although thats only a small percentage , I do think people are indeed wanting to get away for some sun , last year weather in England was ok , but this year it was awful , cannot comment on weather elsewhere in British isles as i didn't pay attention to it
not sure its all doom and gloom out there many things are returning to normal

I suspect some of the problem here is the volume of posts by one individual , I personally just scan read many of the messages here as I have seen the same things posted over and over again, some of the posts here seem to have been written by a schoolboy /or schoolgirl , they may even be right in their assumptions , but its a bit boring reading the same arguments back and forth , just my opinion

Skier 1
new drivers [future buyers ] can be attributed to the fact that people were not having driving tests due to covid , many more learners on the road now , so that number could very well go up , also I expect more people to start going away on planes again due to the poor weather we so often have to endure , I personally want to have a holiday with more than 2 consecutive days of sunshine , but thats me

A SMITHY
not disputing the loss of profit and debt to date
just feel that 2026 with no profit is a bit too far away hence the reason I suggest reduced profit
I think next year will be test of how things will evolve in the future
if as you say no profit til 2026 then this company will IMO no longer exist because they would have to make some profit to pay off some of their liabilities , furthermore many of us want to go abroad for our hols , last year was a dreadful holiday here , many of us want some sun for more than 2 days in a row , it will be difficult times ahead but no necessarily as bad some think

you said earlier that EZJwont make any profit til 2026 , sure that cannot be possible , maybe a reduced profit , but certainly not no profit just saying

omg its like watching tv ,

repeats all day long

in the end its best to go and do something else as it just gets boring seeing the same things over and over ,

all the airlines have huge debt due to a block on travel , some will do better than others in the recovery thats taking place , their could even be some consolidation in the future for some of the smaller airlines , but I think the profits will need to greatly improve before that will happen , personally I do not see iag in a worse position than the likes of Lufthansa , klm / Air France or indeed many other carriers , most of the airlines are having the same problems I would suggest

Big Blue
you have gone away for a few days yet you still post here, unbelievable , your other half must be really happy you chatting with anonymous people instead of him/her ,

smitthy
I was looking earlier and could not work it out , I will give it a go , at least its a way to gauge demand , thanks for sharing

Panther-Pat
could you let me know where you look to find out how many seats are taken on EZJ planes and how many are empty , thanks

Load factors
so smithy you say load factors are not up etc and they have loads of seats they can't sell , would you be able to show us a link where you have seen what you are saying to be true , I cannot find anything that confirms what you say , maybe I am not looking in the right places , so if you can prove what you are posting I'm sure we will all be grateful

Be interesting to see how it reacts this week , good news on red list reduction , I guess many will book weekend breaks away to visit friends and family among other things , here's hoping business picks up quicker now

Obviously we will get back to normal at some point , I feel we are at the beginning of getting back to normal , I see a slow grind forward over the coming months and next year from spring will be the start of the good times for EZJ , if they get through winter unscathed and in one piece I don't think they will succumb to a T/O , having said that if things become difficult again with high number of deaths / hospitalisations or new variants then anything is possible , however if things do become difficult for EZJ regarding covid it will possibly be difficult for other airlines too making it less likely to a T/O at a good price , IMO

hi speedy
well I use 212 as it happens and yes they do lend to shorters as you say , I only buy small amounts of shares at a time so 212 actually works out cheaper for me than using Hargreaves even with the higher spread so I think it depends on circumstances , furthermore I actually started with Hargreaves until I realised it was cheaper for me to use 212 , also I can buy fractional shares on 212 , I don't have endless pots of cash so I try and get best value for my money as I have to still work for it ,