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I'm not sure what this exactly means. I have the three cic shares in my Hargreaves accounts, have dons for sometime and no problem. They slowly all get placed into standard account as delisted. When I got the free shares they got inserted into my account for both cic capital and cic gold, always received everything. I think they like many won't do much until listed, they have said I can trade into Frankfurt if I wish.

I don't know what Hl have changed. It was my daughters account and neither myself or her deal very often so it's not through number of trades I got the cheaper rate. I think they are genuinely trying to be more competitive.

I traded this morning through Hargreaves and only £5.95!

look back at sept 16 year end presentation. 6 to 8 k per year per room ebitda for owned and around £700 per year fee per year, per room for franchise. There was also potential for 12000 owned, 15000 franchise rooms to look at going forward. The challenge is can revenue, keep ahead with ebit to start financing development against equity raising. The latest numbers suggest £26 million available, 2016 we got £10k per room and currently revpar is up in points and occupancy to 85%. The numbers are good but to make good money also and keep overall numbers going forward they need really good numbers on current hotels and more rooms. Everything is expected to pick up next year with numbers and as you wrote the divi policy is aggressive

If you haven't been on their web site and looked at the presentations there worth a look. Summaries the main part quite well, also highlight how many one offs we seem to have every year that include the shares and bonus schemes for the bosses. Doesn't seem to really be a one off at all, 133k last and 168k this year!

Well good luck to you. Sp seems to have stabilised a bit which is good to see. Next stage around £1.20 however we need some more hotels to drive revenue. Liverpool has gone quiet, that should be anytime now I think and the new designs are working well. There is some cash in the bank which needs to be invested soon in further properties.

highlights the loans through to the different businesses from cic fund ltd and that in return the companies issued new shares which have then been handed out. cic gold will dual list, cic capital will dual list and cic fund B shares to raise money, loan to businesses who will then give back shares which will go into the cic fund business or direct to us if you own those shares.

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As said I don't think we see any value ourselves with B share listing unless we bought them. However I assume the money goes into the same bank account as cic A shares and therefore indirectly this benefits us. The aim was the cic fund supported listing of other businesses so this month, they get shares in companies and as they list cic fund gets more value. I would say cic fund A shares firstly are delisted and little appetite for people to buy more? Based on history. Looks like the B shares is a seperate deal purely to raise money. Didn't the recent RNS also highlight cic gold and cic capital ltd for listing which we have In our portfolios and it would bring us value? It was indicated that it's about Chinese money (maybe), so Chinese invest in the fund, this then invests in their businesses in china to get them on a European exchange. Shares are exchanged and swapped when live on an exchange, money can them flow in different directions. I haven't as yet found the RNS live on the web nor on actual company sites? August deadline given, €1.20 per share! Let's see what happens

Been here before with dates of listing and price projections. I can't underhand how B shares which are non voting hit €1.2 when others couldn't break 3pence. Of course I would like a high sp, listing first please on any exchange.

That was my point, it seemed a smoke screen to me that Barclays said they can't but system Is now been changed. Only experience is with HL who are good and can trade

is that a system problem with Barclays or are they simply not able to manage non-uk exchanges? the update earlier from Hargreaves stated they can buy and sell Frankfurt exchange shares and then when dual listed will be able to do both, probably Frankfurt costs more to trade???? in regards shares. there are three as listed below, the cic capital ltd, cic capital fund and cic gold. we should have all three in our accounts and ready for listing !!!!!

Is this your first buy in the business? Are you just in?

What are your thoughts on the B class shares being sold? And also at €1.20?

So at this time cic fund ltd the Canadian company isn't relisting our shares, it's the B class, non-voting shares which get she cash. That money is then given to other business to list, a % of their shares in return which sit within cic fund and hopefully make it more valuable. It would suggest the company is able to raise big sums of money and the company overall will be worth a good value otherwise who would buy the 180 million of shares?

So the RNS lists three company shares. I think the cic gold divi shares are the ones we have already had, this will have dual listing and include gobi. Cic capital ltd we have shares in, will be dual listed also, they haven't drawn down a lot. And cic capital fund shares we also own but not the B shares. These are a new type and different to the A shares I assume. According to the web page there is nearly 500,000 of these not including the B shares. The sp price is very promising however don't believe anything like that till I have seen it, one way or another that a very high value in the fund itself and the B shares are to raise money.

That reads as the standard reply against being delisted as now not the potential RNS.

That's a lot of shares and a high sp against anything previous. B shares could be as valuable as A or not, I have no idea however the sp and volume you would think is based on expected demand? So Chinese money buys the B shares which then allows access to companies on euro exchanges, in assets in china?

There are three shares, cic gold which is a free amount based on how many original you had and if you bought any more. Plus cicc and cic capital ltd. with these two you should have exactly the same amount of shares as one was issued free based on your holding in the other. So three is total.

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