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I suggest you do your own research or employ a legal expert rather than relying on AI.

Give AI the correct prompt and it will give you the answer you want.

ESO process happened 3 months ago and no sign of you being correct yet.

I’ll give you a quick pointer -

Asset Freezes and Compliance: Acts done for the purpose of complying with the prohibitions and obligations of an asset freeze are generally allowed. If you are holding assets for a DP and must take action to prevent them from stealing or misappropriating those assets, this may fall under complying with the requirement to freeze them securely.

Probably time for you to accept you won’t find an excuse in sanctions for your decision not to participate

Not well said at all

If people want to close their eyes to the facts it’s up to them.

How much more ‘detailed, factual knowledge’ does DividendNomad want on top of the announcements BY EVRAZ PLC that the ESO process was happening.

Keep holding your breath until you get an announcement that Evraz PLC is being wound down if you like, but there is more than enough first hand information out there to validate what has happened if you look at it in the clear light of day

I understand, however you didn’t agree with the first person who replied that was absolutely correct.

Unfortunately the dividend angle isn’t just opportunistic, it’s not a valid argument.

HMRC can declare shares nil value. They actually produce a list of shares that are declared nil value! Until Evraz appears on that list, you can’t claim the capital loss unless you sell your shares. Regardless of being frozen, inaccessible or in an individuals opinion worthless - HMRC need to make the decision.

Unfortunately DividendNomad - you couldn’t be more wrong from a legal perspective.

What you have stated is your view on the world. And whilst everyone can understand why you would have that opinion, it isn’t how the tax system works.

Your shares have not been lost. Until you either sell the shares or HMRC declares them as nil value - you can’t write off any losses. Just because you view them as Zero value for your personal gain doesn’t mean HMRC have the same opinion.

In terms of dividends, be realistic. Dividends are never guaranteed, so using averages of past payments is ludicrous. Furthermore, ‘expected dividends’ definitely can’t be used to offset CGT.

Nice try, and I’m sure we all wish the world worked how you would like it to - but unfortunately I’m sure you know what you are claiming isn’t how it works.

You might give it a go and not get audited by HMRC. But if you do, it’s an open and shut case and might be seen as deliberate fraud. Particularly the dividend element.

I can see it still. Where did you get this from?

We don’t have a relisting date or price. Any numbers or dates would be pure speculation right now.

Lies lies lies.

Money isn’t lost in Evraz. It would be fair to say it is currently ‘stuck’.

Andrey you continually use wording that makes it sound like the situation is much worse than reality for your own benefit.

I don’t want to buy more shares at £1, even though I think they are worth it I don’t know how long my money would be tied up. This obviously doesn’t matter to you which is fine, but stop trying to justify your lies by saying you are buying at £1. Just because you are making an offer doesn’t make your lies any more truthful

Andrey making up lies again. Why am I not surprised?

Nobody said ESO will happen, no news has come in on this yet. All I was saying is that if ESO does happen, anyone with a share certificate (the people you are targeting with your lies) is likely to be able to become a direct shareholder in the ESO.

Funny how your line has now changed to somehow make it seem like your ESO shares will be worth more that anyone else’s. Do you realise how ridiculous you sound?

Nobody has a problem with your offer price, I haven’t seen anyone offering more. We do have a problem with your disgraceful tactics to scare people into selling. Give it a break and become an honest person, give it a try and you might find your life is more fulfilling rather than being a keyboard warrior on here all the time

So Andrey. I guess you have seen the ESO guidance from X5.

Looks like foreign holders are highly likely receive direct shares in the ESO.

Are you ready to apologise for all the lies you have been posting over the last 9 months about western shareholders losing everything?

Probably not because you aren’t a man, you are a disgrace to society.