Roundtable Discussion; The Future of Mineral Sands. Watch the video here.
Marc, if you bothered to read you will see I posted this earlier today "Marc001, I disagree, investing is all about timing and knowing when to exit. From an entry point of 31p I sold down most of my holdings in the 20s but kept a small rump out of interest which I have finally now sold off." Try researching before posting!
I understand it just fine Pdub, there's a lot of information in there, 83 pages of it, I suggest you take the time to read it, you might learn something
Harchris, if you're relying on currency rate fluctuations to make your investment case then that's a bit worrying, no one knows what will happen down the line
So when someone puts up research that has come from Bushveld's own website, they instantly become a troll because it doesn't tie in with your own views? I know who I'd rather believe.
Doesn't matter to me, just providing research for other investors, isn't that what this board is about?
Before you all get too excited, take a look at page 71 (financial forecast) of the BNP Paribas note that Bushveld have uploaded to their website.....hardly awe inspiring "https://www.bushveldminerals.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/BNP-Paribas-Exane-%E2%80%93-Initiation-note.pdf"
Marc001, I disagree, investing is all about timing and knowing when to exit. From an entry point of 31p I sold down most of my holdings in the 20s but kept a small rump out of interest which I have finally now sold off. If I followed your investment strategy, ie hold for 5-7 years, I would have made far greater losses. Just because you hold something for a long time does not make it go up in value.
Codejunkie, I was in this for approx 4 years. Your statement that SP only matters when you sell if the biggest excuse that failed investors give. You've lost money, like virtually everyone else in this share. You may get it back eventually but what's the opportunity cost? At least I've got the balls to call this out as a bad investment over the last few years, perhaps you are happy with a 90% fall in share price? Carry on listening to the "guru" Pdub, he's been spouting the same old message about how great things are all the way down from the top. Take those rose tinted glasses off and work out how much you've lost on this "investment"
Oh dear Pdub, it's a bit telling when you filter everyone that doesn't agree with your opinions. I'll stick to the facts, the share price performance has stunk this place out and the majority of investors, long term and short term are under water. Stop defending the indefensible.
Pdub, you are very quick to be offended. The fact you only ever refer to long term investors clearly shows the lack of empathy you have with investors who haven't held as long as you. You seriously need to get off your high horse, you are not an investing guru, as clearly displayed by the performance of the share price. If you were you would have sold out long ago. Please try and remember that while you have your opinion, so do others.
You define 2 years or more as short term?
Pdub, you fail to acknowledge that there are different types of investors, there are those like yourself who are happy to tie their money up in a share for a long period of time and then there investors who have a shorter timeframe; I'm not talking about day traders but people who would happily leave funds in place for a couple of years or so. Both are valid investment strategies.
The latter types of investors, myself included have been badly burnt over the last few years and having someone tell us continuously not to worry, operational progress is great is pretty galling
Pdub, keyword in your last sentence is "when" - I suggest you substitute this with "if"
Pdub, unfortunately the market views the future differently to you and at the end of the day, in terms of investing, that's what counts. Nothing else.
Pdub: was your comment "The foundations are all in place for a successful 2023/24" said tongue in cheek? We've been hearing that for a long time now. I understand you have a long relationship with this share and were lucky enough to get in early and still be in profit; however the majority of investors haven't been so lucky. Hearing people say how great the outlook is smacks of "this time next year Rodney...."
The whole point of investing is to make a return on your investment, a point I think you seem to want to ignore. You may have verified all your points re operational progress but what difference has that made to to the share price I ask you? The market clearly doesn't like this share and I suspect it will be a long time before it changes it mind. But good luck with your investment.
Harchris, I accept that no one has denied that the share price has fallen, however it does very much seem to be the elephant in the room. We've got to the point of "cry wolf" now, no one (including the market in general) will take any forward looking statements seriously now and this is reflected in the price.
If we want to talk about verifiable facts, on 19th December 2018 the share price was 48.5p - long term shareholders have seen a fall of almost 93% in the value of their investment from that point, yet some people still profess that this is the best thing since sliced bread. The point of investment is to make a return, some posters appear to gloss over this fact. Shareholders (myself included) may well gain on today's price but please do not pretend that everything is rosy in the garden when it's clearly not and hasn't been for along time.
Just a shame our old friend Castle's not here to see it!
Pdub, we may not always see eye on eye on BMN but I wish you all the best
Apologies Pdub , hadn't seen that post!