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It closed yesterday at £4.05, there was nothing to jump it up on by 10p! It's the same dirty tricks again, and then they will drop it right back, so am waiting. Had been waiting for days, and then got distracted elsewhere yesterday, hence why I've missed not buying back in yesterday. Not buying back in today, they've let their mates have a good profit today and it will drop imo.

I've sold out, was prepared to hang in with what I had left but not after the vitriol shown here. Quite frankly, some of you deserve what is probably coming to you. For the others who are genuine and don't spit any vitriol here against other posters, I wish you the very best and hope you will get your money back on other shares. Ciao.

Glen is seriously becoming a joke! I mean, where did that rise come from suddenly when it was £3.97 2 days ago? Now it will be back to the inevitable drop down to £4 or below again! Filling my boots on that next drop!

If you're now going for the big buy up between you all in the closed shop TG group, I think you've probably left it too late!

RBMInvest states;

"it’s just focusing on the here and now, the clear and present danger"

wrong, the here and now is death spiral finance, so how do the company get out of the death spiral finance situation, that's what the 'here and now' is about, nothing else matters, they are beholden to Anavio through the death spiral finance, nothing else to it, and Anavio are running a huge risk of not getting their money back so they are exercising their option (b), which is to take a big enough shareholding to allow them to buy the company out for next to nothing, and no doubt, they will then sell it, may be to the JV partner that suddenly withdrew as I understand it. Get a grip, the death spiral finance is the issue 'here and now' imo.

Really mrevans? are the SRA currently investigating you?

And what 'agenda' is that RBMInvest, because you are not divulging it to any other investors, just your closed group? Anavio could have taken that remaining 5% by the end of the week, which then allows them to make an offer, and the company will no doubt vote in favour, I would imagine, unless they can find other finance very quickly, so unless you get a high court injunction pronto, your notion of protecting the assets is dead in the water, it's a non starter, and coupled with the risks of damages and costs if the court dismissed the application for lack of concrete evidence, then I'd say it's likely you are not going to take the risk.

I have nothing to do with the company other than my small investment last week, and yesterday, and I don't know the full history, but all this armchair detective stuff is beyond ridiculous. Either give it over to the SFO and see if they bite, or accept it's probably just another company that has got itself enmeshed in death spiral finance and is caught in Anavio's spiders web. my views, but how many times do investors see it happen!

RBMInvest 11am today states;

"We’re concentrating on stopping the transfer of assets to Anavio’s grubby hands, that is what we see as the clear and present issue. No softening on anything, just focused."

Go on then, issue a High Court injunction to freeze assets. Of you go, show us your metal, this is the moment for you to shine and show investors what you are made of. We're waiting.

This is what annoys me about these TG inner sanctum groups, they come out with this that and the other, yet they do nothing. RBMInvest states they want to stop the transfer of assets, so as I say, go on then, show us your metal, and issue an injunction to freeze the same. We're waiting. But, of course, you won't do it because it's high risk to do so, and you need concrete evidence to show to a Circuit Judge/High Court Judge, why you want to take such action that would possibly prevent the company from trading in the interim. There is also the risk of costs!

RMBInvest, put your money where your mouth is then and go and get a court injunction to freeze the assets so that Anavio can't take them in the interim, but bearing in mind their current holding now, you will have to be quick. So off you trot them and issue your injunction!

Thatisn't what you wrote RBMInvest, you wrote the word "care" which gives the sentence a totally different meaning. You stated that Anavio 'care' about Copl! But you twist it how you like, now that things have moved on since 10 Jan, and you're trying to control the narrative here!

You haven't answered as to why you made this comment in your posting of 10 Jan? A bit ironic isn't it!

"You couldn’t be further from the truth, Anavio very much care about COPL."

Panamabob, the FCA do nothing, don't pin your hopes on that at all, it's the SFO, look on the government website and go through the relevant click box system, that you need, and then it takes an age, and as the SFO state themselves on the govt website, they only deal with "top-tier" cases!

You can go to the police, but they will do nothing.

So all you are left with is a private prosecution and it costs a fortune and you need concrete evidence, as I stated yesterday. The problem also is that the TG are controlling the narrative, so they are not actually divulging what is going on and they will only give the info to those within the inner circle. Always the same. Plus, I suspect they've already been told it will cost hundreds of thousands to pursue a class action, that they will need substantial concrete evidence, and there are huge risks involved in that if the case goes against you, they, that being all involved in the class action, could end up paying damages to the defendants, for loss of business and so on and reputations, as well as their legal costs in full. Why isn't RBMInvest sharing this so that it gives an accurate picture of both the pros and cons?

In the meantime, it looks as though something is afoot and the company might change hands anyway!

my views.

Tuvo, does that equate in the same way to "fill ya boots then?" lol!

How about this tuvok from your leader; 10 Jan posting;

"You couldn’t be further from the truth, Anavio very much care about COPL."

what a joke!

Anyhow, due to the onslaught here, I've decided I'm not investing to see what happens, I'll just trade this, it's good for trading at the moment, so sold half this morning and will buy back when it drops again. Ciao.

Just shows how scared the TG are of someone actually giving an honest opinion about weighing up the pros and cons, and why its preferable to get the SFO to investigate, but the likelihood is, that it will be very difficult, as they did nothing on Quindell. Shows how scared the TG group are, that they go to the lengths of having a thread removed that actually gives a very valid viewpoint. Says it all. imo. TG's are always closed shops and only benefit themselves.

Will that be the bottom?

Have you thought about changing your handle name at all? rather ironic really given your stance here.

I am not connected to anyone and resent the fact that this is being stated. I simply saw the sp at a low, noted some of the ensuing difficulties at the present time, and decided to take a risk, but a small one, I'm not putting any more in than the 10k which has bought me 10 mill shares, and I know the risks, so if I lose it, I won't be happy either, but I'm accepting it's high risk. What the SHG do is of no concern to me, I'm just trying to sound out the pitfalls of litigation and how difficult it will be without any hard evidence, and in the meantime, you might be on to a hiding to nothing anyway. You need CONCRETE EVIDENCE of any form of misdemeanours, without that, no court will entertain you. You also need to be very very careful with how you try and obtain the same. If it backfires, there could be huge costs to pay to the company, so any litigation is risky in itself. For myself, I'm not convinced at all that that is the way to go. Time is of the essence here, and unless the sp starts to rise so that the market cap rises, and the company can perhaps look at alternative methods of finance, or they find a JV partner asap, then what other options are there? they could get a hostile takeover, even the JV partner as was might consider it, who knows?! But I wouldn't be knocking new investors right now if they are prepared to take the risk, but these are just my views.